War

[Fogdog]

Okay he has oil, and other resources to trade with Europe depends on him for gas. China will prop him up no? See I will admit this is where the West outclasses Putin! That’s exactly how the Soviet Union fell right? The world would be much safer with one country without nukes! My question is this wouldn’t it be to much pressure on Russia resulting in Nukes flying? Like if the ship is drowning, might as well drown as many along with them? (Nuclear war)?

You show no understanding of what those sanctions are intended to do.

He has oil and the world needs it, so that bit of trade was carved out from sanctions and it's good thing too. For now. Europe is working out how to reduce its consumption of oil and gas from Russia. For now, the flow goes unabated. Cutting Nordstream 2 means there will be no increase in supply. Japan, India and China all buy oil from Russia. Total Russian revenue in 2021 from oil and gas was about $720 million per day. Costs have gone up, not double but assuming it does double, that means $1.5 Billion per day. The war is costing Russia 20 billion per day.

So, each month this war runs Russia takes in $45 B in oil revenue and spends $600 Billion to on the war. This is not sustainable. The sanctions are making it impossible for Putin to pay for replenishing the war material he uses. He can't keep this up. Even if he reduces the Ukrainian army so that it cannot conduct an open war, Putin would have to occupy Ukraine. How much does that cost? Are his people willing to send their kids into that kind of horror?

Regarding Nukes. That's up to Putin. The US is not going to send troops into Ukraine because they don't want to increase the chance of Putin making the mistake of launching them. It is a reason why they are seeking diplomatic solutions. But you must know that the US and NATO are not going to surrender to Putin just because he might launch. This is old brinksmanship. Nobody can win that kind of war. But the decision would be Putin's. We'll slag Russia if he does and MAD will be complete.

 

[Fogdog]

Common people just want a drama free comfortable life. Imo anyone, any nation or politician, or elite member needs to be dealt with that tries to disrupt the livelihood of those that just want peace!

Tell that to Ukrainians. Tell that to Putin. What you want is irrelevant. Putin chose to invade Ukraine. He has a long history of doing that. The NATO alliance are helping Ukraine defend itself.

 

[56nitty]

Tell that to Ukrainians. Tell that to Putin. What you want is irrelevant. Putin chose to invade Ukraine. He has a long history of doing that. The NATO alliance are helping Ukraine defend itself.

Why didn’t they fight for Crimea? Once Russia took Crimea that was the time to request for planes, etc…

 

[56nitty]

What do you think is the end game for NATO, Russia, China is? World dominance? For the people or for the elite? What class of ppl will benefit? Who do you believe when everyone lies? I’m sorry but I don’t believe anything these Governments say & I’m talking about all of them!!! They’re all no good all they do is rob it’s own citizens.

 

[56nitty]

The financial market seems like a big Ponzi scheme if you ask me. The Dollar is a Ponzi scheme backed by nothing, and the world’s economy is to invested to allow it to fail!

 

[Fogdog]

Why didn’t they fight for Crimea? Once Russia took Crimea that was the time to request for planes, etc…

So, Ukraine should surrender because Crimea?

Shit, man, that's really stupid.

 

[56nitty]

Great talking to you @ Fogdog and walking away with a little more understanding from someone else’s perspective!

 

[56nitty]

So, Ukraine should surrender because Crimea?

Shit, man, that's really stupid.

No I’m saying fight! Why after Russia took or stole whichever you want to call what they did. Why didn’t Ukraine secretly ask for warplanes, and everything they would need to put Russia in it’s place? It seems it would have been easier to get that equipment after they lost Crimea before Russia came back. That would have made me do my best to acquire the hardware needed to fight at a future date with Russia! If they invaded once they’d do it again!!!

 

[Fogdog]

What do you think is the end game for NATO, Russia, China is? World dominance? For the people or for the elite? What class of ppl will benefit? Who do you believe when everyone lies? I’m sorry but I don’t believe anything these Governments say & I’m talking about all of them!!! They’re all no good all they do is rob it’s own citizens.

NATO is a defense alliance. There is no end game in defence except more defence. What is Russia's and China's end game? Come now, I already spelled out Putin's objectives. He can't accomplish them. The game is over, Putin lost. What remains is what he will do when he can no longer deny that. That's his decision. I am not able to predict what a psychopath dictator will do.

 

[zeddd]

I listen to his videos, they are usually pretty solid well researched look at whatever is trending at the time he posts them. Sometimes he has some really interesting perspective that I wouldn't have thought of, and is not pompous about it nor is he pushing bullshit.

Some guy in a basement telling us what he thinks, ok I see the appeal now

 

[printer]

Have you donated money? Better yet why don’t you go and fight for Ukraine! You are aware they are accepting help from citizens of any country that wants to fight!

Too old for them to babysit me.

 

[Fogdog]

No I’m saying fight! Why after Russia took or stole whichever you want to call what they did. Why didn’t Ukraine secretly ask for warplanes, and everything they would need to put Russia in it’s place? It seems it would have been easier to get that equipment after they lost Crimea before Russia came back. That would have made me do my best to acquire the hardware needed to fight at a future date with Russia! If they invaded once they’d do it again!!!

Do you think Trump would have supported that? He was Putin's money launderer and wannabe lackey. Before Crimea, there was the Russian invasion of Georgia too. Hindsight is 20:20. Coulda woulda shoulda. Go ahead and spin your story. I'm not going there.

What we do know from what happened after Geogia and Crimea were invaded is appeasement leads to more demands and an escalation of threats from Putin. So, the west has decided to help Ukraine and have implemented crushing sanctions on Russia. Given time and Russia will no longer be able to invade another country. Was it Biden who said there will be a Ukraine longer than there will be a Putin in charge of Russia? That's a good objective, don't you think?

 

[56nitty]

Trump doesn’t control NATO! Any NATO country could have sent care packages. Can’t bash Trump too much for some of his views in regards to NATO if you’re an American we were majority footing the bill, other NATO members not so much. Enlighten me!

 

[Fogdog]

Trump doesn’t control NATO! Any NATO country could have sent care packages. Can’t bash Trump too much for some of his views in regards to NATO if you’re an American we were majority footing the bill, other NATO members not so much. Enlighten me!

Trump was Putin's hatchet man, sent by him to break NATO. Did you not listen to him?

Oh, and how about that time when Trump asked Putin if Russia interfered with the 2016 election and Putin simply said "no". Trump just sat there and took the answer as if Putin were a boss. He would have taken the US out of NATO if he had won the second term.

Trump was Putin's money launderer. He was Putin's servant and did laundry for all of his oligarchs. Read up on Bayrock

Donald Trump Was Everything Vladimir Putin Could Have Wished For

From the days when the KGB sought to cultivate him 40 years ago to his term as president, Trump was a useful stooge. And if he gets another term, he still can be.

newrepublic.com

 

[56nitty]

Trump was Putin's hatchet man, sent by him to break NATO. Did you not listen to him?

Oh, and how about that time when Trump asked Putin if Russia interfered with the 2016 election and Putin simply said "no". Trump just sat there and took the answer as if Putin were a boss. He would have taken the US out of NATO if he had won the second term.

Trump was Putin's money launderer. He was Putin's servant and did laundry for all of his oligarchs. Read up on Bayrock

Donald Trump Was Everything Vladimir Putin Could Have Wished For

From the days when the KGB sought to cultivate him 40 years ago to his term as president, Trump was a useful stooge. And if he gets another term, he still can be.

newrepublic.com

Great point it is well known that trump fancies dictators, and the power they have over their ppl. I’m going to read your link. A lot of stuff Trump said I never took at face value. He’s in it for the money! If he runs for office again, I think he’ll win!

 

[CCGNZ]

Almost everybody wants to live in a liberal democracy, free from corruption and in countries with a homogeneous population and few social divisions this is not too hard to do. However the borders of many counties were drawn by empires and not the people on the ground and many countries were created from different peoples. Then we have the modern multicultural societies, America, Canada and parts of Europe like Britain. Many countries in Europe have small native cultures and the effects of immigration are more deeply felt as the cultures are perceived as threatened. America has historical racist baggage in addition to these issues and some media companies like foxnews who profit from social division and try to create it for profit. Wherever there is social division, there will be those who look to exploit it for nefarious reasons, even if they have to dreg through ancient history to find it.

We all have our phobias,and when it comes to multi cultures,and different races have some cultural practices that might strike us as strange,but in the end the fact that people from diff. cultures can form a nation is the straw that stirs the drink and I think that diversity is one of the biggest assets of a lib. democracy

 

[CCGNZ]

Great point it is well known that trump fancies dictators, and the power they have over their ppl. I’m going to read your link. A lot of stuff Trump said I never took at face value. He’s in it for the money! If he runs for office again, I think he’ll win!

If Mr. Orange runs in 2024 it would be akin to a cancer survivor being told 4yrs. later it's back,if he truly cared one iota about his country he would just GO AWAY

 

[hanimmal]

Some guy in a basement telling us what he thinks, ok I see the appeal now

I guess if you just want to be a dick about it, that might make seem true. But it is not, the dude made his studio look like it is in his basement at some point because his barn had a tin roof and when it rained the sound would be shitty.

 

[Friendly_Grower]

If Mr. Orange runs in 2024 it would be akin to a cancer survivor being told 4yrs. later it's back,if he truly cared one iota about his country he would just GO AWAY

There is a chance he will be ineligible to run if he is convicted of the crimes we all know he did.
Sadly he got away with his financial crimes in New York because they have a new A.G. there and he let Trump off.

 

[CCGNZ]

There is a chance he will be ineligible to run if he is convicted of the crimes we all know he did.
Sadly he got away with his financial crimes in New York because they have a new A.G. there and he let Trump off.

The "Putin is savvy" quote is going to be run 24/7 if he does, but I'm not mentally ready for the dickhead and the MAGA hats to be back in the spotlight w/all the BS that entails.