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Russia gives up key northeast towns as Ukrainian forces advance

The swift fall of Izium in Kharkiv province was Moscow's worst defeat since its troops were forced back from Kyiv in March, and could prove a turning point in the war, with thousands of Russian soldiers abandoning ammunition stockpiles and equipment as they fled.

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• Ukrainian breakthrough is fastest advance in months
• Thousands of Russian troops face potential encirclement

 

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Looks like the Ukrainian operation to refurbish Russian equipment will be busy, the Ukrainians are capturing large amounts of it, along with ammo and prisoners from the northeast. They have also cut off large Russian forces near Kherson trapped on the wrong side of the river and are pinning them there with low level attacks. Their massive reserve forces of mostly older guys can hold ground the army has taken and mop up, while most of the Army moves on. Eliminating the Russians in the north east and south will free up large Ukrainian forces to concentrate in other places. The Ukrainians have a million men under arms and a pipeline for trained regular army replacements and even to form whole new units. Their very large numbers of reserves and territorials can hold ground from greatly weakened Russians long enough for the Army to deal with any trouble if required.

 

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More phoenix ghost drones to kill officers and destroy C&C centers, they will use lot's on the advance when the Russians are panicked and making lot's of risky radio calls, issuing orders to redeploy troops and evacuate. I also think the Ukrainians have overcome their earlier firmware problems with DJI drones and have probably cut off the information the Russians were getting by now. There are many other military drones given by other countries and huge numbers of civilian drones donated internationally or purchased, now that their value is realized. They make a deadly combination when coupled with accurate artillery and HIMARS.

The US has sent hundreds of Phoenix Ghosts to Ukraine, but there have been few glimpses of the 'kamikaze' drones in action

A US official has said the Phoenix Ghost "is designed for tactical operations. In other words, largely and but not exclusively to attack targets."

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Once the collapse has begun, it might keep rolling, once objectives in the east are achieved, the Russians in the south on the wrong side of the Dnieper river can be dealt with. Next concentrate their forces and split the south off from the east while threatening the bridge at Kerch and the supplies into Crimea. Just the threat of that bridge's destruction should cause the Russians to withdraw from the south of Ukraine or risk being trapped their of at least have their equipment trapped there.

This illustrates the desperation of a Russian who sees the writing on the wall, the Russian army in Ukraine could collapse on a couple of fronts. They are really screwed in the east and will at least have their equipment for the large forces trapped around Kherson captured or destroyed by the Russians as they get their troops out at least.

Using nukes in western Ukraine near Poland would not be a good idea and might provoke an attack by Poland on Belarus, fuck NATO, they and the Ukrainians would go it alone! What would they use a tactical nuke on, other than a city, it would have little effect on the the battlefield and supplies and troops are not that concentrated. Ukraine has lot's of nuclear reactors and you don't need any tech or time worth a fuck to make dirty bombs that can make Russian cities uninhabitable.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1568563650201264128

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

I just go into my security settings and delete any cookies from sites like that and get more free reads. I use Proton VPN so could switch servers but don't need to even do that. Takes all of 10 seconds.

Nice to be able to switch to almost any country on the planet and watch stuff blocked unless you're from there. It's about the only software I've ever paid for.

that works for some sites, turning javascript works for some, and many browsers now have a "reader" mode, that bypass much..but there are a few sites i can't seem to get past, NYT and WaPo in particular...

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

Once the collapse has begun, it might keep rolling, once objectives in the east are achieved, the Russians in the south on the wrong side of the Dnieper river can be dealt with. Next concentrate their forces and split the south off from the east while threatening the bridge at Kerch and the supplies into Crimea. Just the threat of that bridge's destruction should cause the Russians to withdraw from the south of Ukraine or risk being trapped their of at least have their equipment trapped there.

This illustrates the desperation of a Russian who sees the writing on the wall, the Russian army in Ukraine could collapse on a couple of fronts. They are really screwed in the east and will at least have their equipment for the large forces trapped around Kherson captured or destroyed by the Russians as they get their troops out at least.

Using nukes in western Ukraine near Poland would not be a good idea and might provoke an attack by Poland on Belarus, fuck NATO, they and the Ukrainians would go it alone! What would they use a tactical nuke on, other than a city, it would have little effect on the the battlefield and supplies and troops are not that concentrated. Ukraine has lot's of nuclear reactors and you don't need any tech or time worth a fuck to make dirty bombs that can make Russian cities uninhabitable.

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haven't all of you spent the entire war trying to tell me that risking the use of nukes is a bad thing?
don't fucking change lanes on me now...
"we can't provoke putin, he might use a nuke."...and the whole time i'm thinking "what bigger provocation can there be than him losing the war?"....isn't that the goal of this whole operation? to provide the biggest provocation possible?

 

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haven't all of you spent the entire war trying to tell me that risking the use of nukes is a bad thing?
don't fucking change lanes on me now...
"we can't provoke putin, he might use a nuke."...and the whole time i'm thinking "what bigger provocation can there be than him losing the war?"....isn't that the goal of this whole operation? to provide the biggest provocation possible?

It had to happen and Putin hasn't used nukes yet, some of this has been Joe taking his measure and he has apparently. No NATO troops are involved, just weapons, it's still a proxy war the Russians have been ground down enough and now offensive operations are underway. The Ukrainians have excellent intelligence and generalship, while the Russians have dead ones or those fired by Putin. This is what excellent generalship, strategy and tactics look like when facing a poorly lead and equipped opposition with low moral. The Ukrainians are gonna chop them up, encircle and isolate them from their supply bases, capturing tens of thousands of the bastards along with their equipment and ammo.

This guy was a Russian military blogger who is freaking out, it would be better for Russia to leave Ukraine, all of it than to use nukes. Ukraine can produce their own dirty bombs, nuclear waste or manufactured isotopes in reactors that would make Russian cities uninhabitable, just strap an explosive to the shit for dispersal over the target. It ain't just NATO nuclear power he faces if he let's that genie out of the bottle a few hundred miles from Moscow.

 

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[JamieThePainter]

It ain't just NATO nuclear power he faces if he let's that genie out of the bottle a few hundred miles from Moscow.

I'd like to think that even if Putin did use a tactical nuke in Ukraine, we'd resist the urge to reply in kind. I'd expect us to move in militarily, but to risk the exchange of ICBMs by us firing the first salvo is a bit too dodgy.

 

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I'd like to think that even if Putin did use a tactical nuke in Ukraine, we'd resist the urge to reply in kind. I'd expect us to move in militarily, but to risk the exchange of ICBMs by us firing the first salvo is a bit too dodgy.

Step one would be a drone strike directly on dear leader

 

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I'm sure the Germans having their gas cutoff has something to do with them coughing up arms...

 

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I'd like to think that even if Putin did use a tactical nuke in Ukraine, we'd resist the urge to reply in kind. I'd expect us to move in militarily, but to risk the exchange of ICBMs by us firing the first salvo is a bit too dodgy.

agreed under one nonnegotiable condition: so long that the conventional response is swifter and more brutal than a payback nuking.

If Russia uses a nuke, rouse Nato and end Russia. March the B-2s from west to east, smart-bombing every airfield, railyard, and port. Drop a MOP into every known or suspected missile emplacement. Sink every last Russian sub and their surface fleet. Establish and maintain complete air supremacy from Kaliningrad to Kamchatka.

Make daring to use a nuke (this includes bombing reactors) unbearably expensive in China’s and DPRK’s full view.

 

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I'd like to think that even if Putin did use a tactical nuke in Ukraine, we'd resist the urge to reply in kind. I'd expect us to move in militarily, but to risk the exchange of ICBMs by us firing the first salvo is a bit too dodgy.

In war the only justice is retaliation, they need to understand the consequences of their actions, like the Germans did with poison gas in WW2. The Brits were ready to dump tons of it on German cities using bombers and told the Germans so, even made a film about it for public release during the war. Them dumping nuclear waste on Moscow in retaliation is a lot better than us nuking the Russians and less likely to spread a nuclear war. Their reactors produce plutonium as a byproduct and a few kilograms of that dispersed over Moscow would make it pretty hot for a long time.

 

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In war the only justice is retaliation, they need to understand the consequences of their actions, like the Germans did with poison gas in WW2. The Brits were ready to dump tons of it on German cities using bombers and told the Germans so, even made a film about it for public release during the war. Them dumping nuclear waste on Moscow in retaliation is a lot better than us nuking the Russians and less likely to spread a nuclear war. Their reactors produce plutonium as a byproduct and a few kilograms of that dispersed over Moscow would make it pretty hot for a long time.

that would be an overresponse and a terror act. The consequences would be very bad. Imagine 9/11 but with a box of strontium-90 on each plane.

 

[JamieThePainter]

In war the only justice is retaliation, they need to understand the consequences of their actions, like the Germans did with poison gas in WW2. The Brits were ready to dump tons of it on German cities using bombers and told the Germans so, even made a film about it for public release during the war. Them dumping nuclear waste on Moscow in retaliation is a lot better than us nuking the Russians and less likely to spread a nuclear war. Their reactors produce plutonium as a byproduct and a few kilograms of that dispersed over Moscow would make it pretty hot for a long time.

I do understand the need and urge to fight fire with fire. I also understand though, that the global exchange of ICBMs does not end well for anyone and I hope that our glorious leaders understand same.

Looking at Russian ventures over the past 6 months, I doubt our lot would risk it. Far easier to send a few teams in tbf. His army is a joke.

 

[cannabineer]

I do understand the need and urge to fight fire with fire. I also understand though, that the global exchange of ICBMs does not end well for anyone and I hope that our glorious leaders understand same.

Looking at Russian ventures over the past 6 months, I doubt our lot would risk it. Far easier to send a few teams in tbf. His army is a joke.

“a few teams” is an underresponse; see above. The objective is to break a state that uses a tactical nuke.

 

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The Ministry of Defense explained the retreat of troops from Izyum and Balakliya
Russian troops in the areas of Izyum and Balakliya were regrouped to build up efforts in the Donetsk direction, this was done in order to achieve the goals of the special operation in Ukraine. So the retreat from the two cities was explained in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation , as the official representative of the department, Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov , told reporters .

According to him, the operation to curtail and transfer the Izyum-Balakley group of Russian troops to the territory of the DPR was carried out within three days. For the sake of this, the RF Armed Forces carried out diversionary measures, indicating the real actions of the troops.

“In order to prevent damage to Russian troops, a powerful fire defeat was inflicted on the enemy using aviation, missile troops and artillery,” the Defense Ministry added, announcing the destruction of more than two thousand Ukrainian military personnel and foreign mercenaries during these three days.

Earlier it became known that Russian units had to leave Izyum.

On September 8, it became known about the beginning of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) in the Kharkiv region towards the cities of Balakleya , Izyum and Kupyansk .

Минобороны объяснило отступление войск из Изюма и Балаклеи

Российские войска в районах Изюма и Балаклеи были перегруппированы для наращивания усилий на донецком направлении, это делалось в целях достижения целей спецоперации на Украине. Так отступление из двух городов объяснили в Минобороны РФ. Операция по свертыванию и переброске группировки проведена...

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Putin said that the participants of the special operation give their lives for Russia
Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the participants in the special operation are giving their lives for Russia. The head of state spoke about this during an event on the occasion of the 875th anniversary of the founding of Moscow.

“The servicemen who died during the special military operation gave their lives for Russia,” he said. His words are broadcast by the Russia 24 TV channel. Putin also explained that specialists from Moscow, in difficult conditions, are doing everything to prepare Donetsk and Luhansk for the winter period.

Earlier URA.RU reported that in Russia the number of citizens who trust the President of the Russian Federation has increased . Judging by the VTsIOM poll, the approval rate for the president’s activities from August 29 to September 4, 2022 was 76.8%. Putin also raised the issue of providing housing for military personnel at a meeting of the Security Council, writes RT .

Путин заявил, что участники спецоперации отдают жизнь за Россию

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The head of the special forces "Akhmat": about a third of the reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed near Kharkov
Approximately a third of the Ukrainian forces thrown into the offensive in the south and in the Kharkiv region were destroyed. This was announced by the head of the special forces "Akhmat" Apti Alaudinov.

“Forces abandoned by the Armed Forces of Ukraine for a counteroffensive in the south and in the Kharkiv region cannot change the general course of the war, no matter how hard they try. I can state that a third of these forces have been disabled, ”Alaudinov said on the air of the Solovyov Live program.

Earlier, the Armed Forces of Ukraine launched an offensive in the direction of the Nikolaev and Kherson regions, the Russian military repelled all attacks, the Russian Defense Ministry said. Also, Ukrainian troops tried to attack the Kupyansky district of the Kharkov region.

Russian Permanent Representative to the UN Vasily Nebenzya said that there could be no question of any “breakthrough” of the Ukrainian troops during their “counteroffensive”. " National News Service " reported that the authorities of the Kherson region captured the participants in the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Глава спецназа «Ахмат»: примерно треть резервов ВСУ уничтожена под Харьковом

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The Ministry of Finance spoke about the difficulties with the budget of Russia
The Russian budget for the next three years will be the most difficult in a professional career for Finance Minister Anton Siluanov . He admitted this on the air of the Russia 24 TV channel, TASS quotes .

“I think that the budget for the upcoming three years will be the most difficult in my professional career,” he said.

Earlier, Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin spoke about the growth in oil and gas revenues of the Russian budget after the introduction of Western sanctions - it increased by almost 50 percent. For his part, the head of the Accounts Chamber of Russia, Alexei Kudrin , noted that the main weakness of the Russian economy is still dependence on the export of hydrocarbons.

Economic Development Minister Maxim Reshetnikov assured that the situation in the Russian economy as a whole is now better than expected.

Минобороны сообщило о перегруппировке войск в районах Балаклеи и Изюма

Российские войска из Балаклеи и Изюма перегруппировали на Донецкое направление для достижения заявленных целей специальной военной операции по освобождению... РИА Новости, 12.09.2022

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[Roger A. Shrubber]

Step one would be a drone strike directly on dear leader

no...it wouldn't. not that it makes any sense to me, but there are rules in modern warfare, and we're bound to follow those rules, if we want to have a moral or ethical leg to stand on.
if we start assassinating foreign leaders, it kind of opens the door for them to reply in kind. every federal official in the country would have to start traveling in armored vehicles, wearing body armor, making sure to sit away from windows...
if you will notice, all the air strikes and drone strikes we've performed have been against terrorist threats, not against elected officials of foreign states.