jimbizzzale67123
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And two strains, next grow is Headband and Pineapple express.
White Widow Waterfarm. 1st Journal on the forums.
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jimbizzzale67123
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I am going to update later but for now I need to vent......
So I just got back from my good friends neighbor who started growing last year because of me talking about it. So his last grow was OK he has a 4x4 ebb and flow table and 600 watt light he grew like 5 or six plant and got like 5 or 6 ounces it was ok for a first grow. I gave him a few tips here and there, he never ever listened
he was growing his plants in like 1/4 gallon pots maybe even smaller they were tiny pots, I tried to explain to him the importance of a root structure, he didn't give a fuck. So I basically stoped giveing him tips because either he really didnt care or he assumed I didnt know what I was talking about, and that his method of cutting off leaves causing nutrient deficiency and bad contain choices were superior.
Well so after I stumbled across scottys thread I showed it too him, and he built a screen for this most recent grow. And he grew some seeds that were from my last grow they were seeds that were pollinated by a herm plant. I told him probably 50 times that the plants would herm, he kept saying I dont think they will. I was always so pissed and knew they would herm.
Well guess what they hermed, today I went over there to check on his grow and a bunch of his bud sites were filled with seeds. Ohh and guess what, only half of his screen got filled cause he killed so many plants. So I am like well just keep looking for bananas and pick them off, and I noticed that his buds were starting to get light burned. They look just like mine, and so I made him aware, and he says he just raised the light up and it was right on top of them(ohh yea he doesn't even exhaust the heat from his light just lets it hang around). So his digital thrmomater is sitting right on the screen right below the light, so I look at it first off the room felt pretty humid and thats what I was looking for I notice the thing says the room which is in a basement in a fairly humid part of the US is at 12% RH I go bro t hat thing is broken there is no way it is 12% RH my room which is in a basment too same area stays around 55-60%RH with a dehumidifier in the basement.
So he just refuses to agree it is broken and swears it is and I quote "Dry as FUCK" so I look at the temp and it says 95F on it I go bro that is way too hot, and now he starts to get pissed and is like dude its fine it was lower and the tips got burnt so I raised it up its fine. I say no its not it is probably too hot and ur hydrometer on it is broken u should get a new one. No I think its fine, he sticks his hand under and says I dont give a fuck what the thermometer says I use my hand. I go yea alot of people say that but they dont say disregard the temp, u are running a 6oow light with no exhaust hooked up 8in above the canopy its too hot. And then he just tells me to leave, I guess he got offended by my vast knowledge. I go bro I am not tryiong to be a dick or anything just trying to help, people lose crops all the time, he tells me as I was leaving if I knew so much why wasent I growing the way I am the whole time.
As I left I couldnt believe it is this person that stupid to believe people are just born with understandings of everything, and that I dont know anything because I just stumbled across scottys grow and decided to switch over from soil to hydro. I was dissapointed by his hardheadedness and now I am offended by the image he has created of me in his head.
He also said he didn't need any PPM meter I mean why wont this guy listen all I do is research growing methods and I have a very vast knowledge I am no expert but that is my goal. You dont just become a expert it takes years of research and years of hands on experimentation.
Whatever I'm not even going to go over their, I am just going to laugh when I grow more than him using less lighting, one plant, and less growing space. Also my grow buck cost me $65 and his table was $500 and he doesnt even use it correctly, man research sure can get u far. And when ever he started he said his goal was to get 5lbs of his setup, I said it was impossible even with the most perfect setup to get 5lbs off of a 600w I mean I am sure some master grower could find a way but it sure as hell wont be him. He doesn't think he needs fresh air, he thinks trimming leafs off is beneficial, and root space isnt important at all.
Ohh yea this guy is like twice my age. I know I know u would expect him to be immature and young but no.
My one buddy justsaid to let him learn from his mistakes that is the only way.
So I just got back from my good friends neighbor who started growing last year because of me talking about it. So his last grow was OK he has a 4x4 ebb and flow table and 600 watt light he grew like 5 or six plant and got like 5 or 6 ounces it was ok for a first grow. I gave him a few tips here and there, he never ever listened
he was growing his plants in like 1/4 gallon pots maybe even smaller they were tiny pots, I tried to explain to him the importance of a root structure, he didn't give a fuck. So I basically stoped giveing him tips because either he really didnt care or he assumed I didnt know what I was talking about, and that his method of cutting off leaves causing nutrient deficiency and bad contain choices were superior. Well so after I stumbled across scottys thread I showed it too him, and he built a screen for this most recent grow. And he grew some seeds that were from my last grow they were seeds that were pollinated by a herm plant. I told him probably 50 times that the plants would herm, he kept saying I dont think they will. I was always so pissed and knew they would herm.
Well guess what they hermed, today I went over there to check on his grow and a bunch of his bud sites were filled with seeds. Ohh and guess what, only half of his screen got filled cause he killed so many plants. So I am like well just keep looking for bananas and pick them off, and I noticed that his buds were starting to get light burned. They look just like mine, and so I made him aware, and he says he just raised the light up and it was right on top of them(ohh yea he doesn't even exhaust the heat from his light just lets it hang around). So his digital thrmomater is sitting right on the screen right below the light, so I look at it first off the room felt pretty humid and thats what I was looking for I notice the thing says the room which is in a basement in a fairly humid part of the US is at 12% RH I go bro t hat thing is broken there is no way it is 12% RH my room which is in a basment too same area stays around 55-60%RH with a dehumidifier in the basement.
So he just refuses to agree it is broken and swears it is and I quote "Dry as FUCK" so I look at the temp and it says 95F on it I go bro that is way too hot, and now he starts to get pissed and is like dude its fine it was lower and the tips got burnt so I raised it up its fine. I say no its not it is probably too hot and ur hydrometer on it is broken u should get a new one. No I think its fine, he sticks his hand under and says I dont give a fuck what the thermometer says I use my hand. I go yea alot of people say that but they dont say disregard the temp, u are running a 6oow light with no exhaust hooked up 8in above the canopy its too hot. And then he just tells me to leave, I guess he got offended by my vast knowledge. I go bro I am not tryiong to be a dick or anything just trying to help, people lose crops all the time, he tells me as I was leaving if I knew so much why wasent I growing the way I am the whole time.
As I left I couldnt believe it is this person that stupid to believe people are just born with understandings of everything, and that I dont know anything because I just stumbled across scottys grow and decided to switch over from soil to hydro. I was dissapointed by his hardheadedness and now I am offended by the image he has created of me in his head.
He also said he didn't need any PPM meter I mean why wont this guy listen all I do is research growing methods and I have a very vast knowledge I am no expert but that is my goal. You dont just become a expert it takes years of research and years of hands on experimentation.
Whatever I'm not even going to go over their, I am just going to laugh when I grow more than him using less lighting, one plant, and less growing space. Also my grow buck cost me $65 and his table was $500 and he doesnt even use it correctly, man research sure can get u far. And when ever he started he said his goal was to get 5lbs of his setup, I said it was impossible even with the most perfect setup to get 5lbs off of a 600w I mean I am sure some master grower could find a way but it sure as hell wont be him. He doesn't think he needs fresh air, he thinks trimming leafs off is beneficial, and root space isnt important at all.
Ohh yea this guy is like twice my age. I know I know u would expect him to be immature and young but no.
My one buddy justsaid to let him learn from his mistakes that is the only way.
Serapis
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Quit giving him advice and spend time on your grow. Like you said, he'll become frustrated and maybe come seeking advice. The problem is, before growing, he saw your friendship as equal. You were two equal dudes that liked hanging out. When growing was introduced to him, you already knew more than him, that makes him feel inferior. Whenever you point out problems or broken equipment, he feels you are chastising him, correcting his errors, and it makes him feel inferior to you and possibly even misinterpreted as rejection.
Call and apologize, let him know you only looking out for him, but will keep quiet in the future unless asked. That's what i would do. And it isn't an admission of guilt on your part, it is simply being the bigger guy and making the child feel better.
Call and apologize, let him know you only looking out for him, but will keep quiet in the future unless asked. That's what i would do. And it isn't an admission of guilt on your part, it is simply being the bigger guy and making the child feel better.
jimbizzzale67123
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On I made it clear I wasn't putting him down, I already knew going in he was kinda stubborn. I am not really good friends with him, I already apologized and I guess I was apologizing for making his knowledge of growing expand. IMO that is never ever anything to apologize for, I was pretty calm until he said he doesn't care what a thermometer says and that his hand is a thermometer, that was just too ignorant to ignore. Every time I am over I usually dont say anything, because he has so many problems it would take hours. His leaves are always miss-colored he always has many different deficiencies at once. I usually just tell my friend to tell him and I dont think my friend does I already learned not to point out too much. But I felt the temp problem was easy to understand and he had too agree, boy was I wrong.Quit giving him advice and spend time on your grow. Like you said, he'll become frustrated and maybe come seeking advice. The problem is, before growing, he saw your friendship as equal. You were two equal dudes that liked hanging out. When growing was introduced to him, you already knew more than him, that makes him feel inferior. Whenever you point out problems or broken equipment, he feels you are chastising him, correcting his errors, and it makes him feel inferior to you and possibly even misinterpreted as rejection.
Call and apologize, let him know you only looking out for him, but will keep quiet in the future unless asked. That's what i would do. And it isn't an admission of guilt on your part, it is simply being the bigger guy and making the child feel better.
I will just let him fail, and when he wants advise my response will be I learned everything I know from the internet Google it bro.
And I cant even count how many times I said I am just trying to help you out.
jimbizzzale67123
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It really is a shame, because its not him I am tryong to help. I dont give two shits about this guy, its really my passonite love for marijuana and the old if you are going to do something you might as well do it right.And there it is....
When I cook food, I dont make a hot-pocket I will make jerk chicken with wild rice.
or look up another recipe, cause I have the internet and two eyes and my brain works unlike that guy(no longer refereed to as my friend, really wasn't ever a friend and sure as hell isn't now)
jimbizzzale67123
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The good news is I have another friend that is starting and he cant get enough of me talking about marijuana. He actually understands the importance of infinitely expanding knowledge.
WakethBaketh
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Just read through your entire journal and your grow looks great and boy did I learn a lot!
jimbizzzale67123
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That's why I did it, good to hear. When I am finished harvesting some time in the next couple of weeks, I will be reflecting back going over all the things I learned and what I will do differently.
jimbizzzale67123
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Update: Day 62 flower, the buds are swelling more and more. The calyxes are even more plump and the hairs are slowly turning red. The trics are still cloudy and a bit of clear so I am going to wait a bit and make sure they amber up just a bit.
That bud that is falling over is getting chopped tomorrow, I keep hitting it with my hand and knocking it around on accident pour little thing is begging to get smoked thats the one in the closeup too. I am also dead tired of the nasty shitty foul tasting buds that have been going around.
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That bud that is falling over is getting chopped tomorrow, I keep hitting it with my hand and knocking it around on accident pour little thing is begging to get smoked thats the one in the closeup too. I am also dead tired of the nasty shitty foul tasting buds that have been going around.
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The Freebird
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Holy shit... subbed! cant wait to see that harvest
Serapis
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I left the images in the reply because it is on the following page.Update: Day 62 flower, the buds are swelling more and more. The calyxes are even more plump and the hairs are slowly turning red. The trics are still cloudy and a bit of clear so I am going to wait a bit and make sure they amber up just a bit.
That bud that is falling over is getting chopped tomorrow, I keep hitting it with my hand and knocking it around on accident pour little thing is begging to get smoked thats the one in the closeup too. I am also dead tired of the nasty shitty foul tasting buds that have been going around.
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Nice work Dude!!! Those buds look awesome! That is some large sugar leaves. They really stretch out.
jimbizzzale67123
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I have to say she is a pretty strain with some monster buds, she stinks in a good way and is just coated in trics. The one problem with this strain is the fact that I had it herm and many many other complain of the same thing. Its not bad because if it did get seeded just a bit it surely didn't affect the THC output so I cant complain. I just wish I could clone and actually get a phenotype that wont herm on me.
Serapis
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Without having to go back and look, did you use reverse on the plant or just pick off bananas? I'm on my first scrog and the thought of a hermie worries me greatly, as I have yet to have one with my Nirvana Bubblelicious seeds. I constantly look for balls when I work the screen.
jimbizzzale67123
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I just picked off bananas the problem was I couldn't get too the back and could only get the ones on the front bud sites. It only hermed inside of the buds never on the actually nodes where the preflowers are. I had a PPP from nirvana hermie terribly by growing a huge ball sac on the node and it exploded without me noticing.
What is this reverse I have never heard of it, is it like a hormone that stops hermies I must know.
jimbizzzale67123
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I goggled Heath Robinson and looked at the cartoonist and didn't think thats what u wanted me too look at than I found a heath Robinson on Roll it up and just came across his thread, I looked at the first 5 pictures my first thought. That dude is a mad scientist, and I am off to read his thread, hopefully its the heath u wanted me to check out.
Serapis
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It must have been another thread...
I have a bottle of Dutch Master Reverse and a bottle of Saturator (wetting agent) that I have on standby just in case. Anyone using Fem seeds should have some on standby. It can be used in two ways, to pretreat plants once at begining of flower and then 10 days in and you'll not get a hermie. It will not reverse a true male however. You can also treat after locating hermie spots, but the schedule is more aggressive then witht he spraying.
Google up Duth Master reverse
T.M.B
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Yes the guy on roll it up no doubt a guru in growing mj, if you read on a bit he gets into feeding and explains plenty. He falls under the less is more so adding stronger nutes will not help but hurt more salts build up and then wont allow the plants to take in the nutes needed no matter how high you bump the ppm,very interesting when you get to it I think you will enjoy,good read for all us new hydro guys.
Serapis
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Sounds like good reference! I'll check it out.