Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

[HigherGround]

Hey Matt! First off good info.! Hope this thread continues since I'm new to the thread. I'm very interested in trying a plant based nuitrent blend. I also found that a lot organic nutrients start with plants. Right?

That hash you got going, DAME MAN! I'm sorry to say I have never came close to smoking anything that pure looking! I could only imagine smoking that and then going back to what I usually have. Everything would taste like hay. Lol. BIG UP!

 

[Matt Rize]

Plushberry is starting to put on flowers, the purp pheno is pretty already

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

you can barely tell but the coco plants are starting to catch up in growth and size
flipping in two weeks + and will be transplanting to 7 gallons soon

organics in front coco mainly, one in the middle of the first five but thats a different plant

 

[SlightlyVaped]

Hey Matt, if I am vegging from clone for 1-2 weeks then switching to 8-9 weeks of flower do you think I can get away with using a 2 gallon smart pot? Or should I just stick to the 3 gallon regular pots I am using?

 

[Matt Rize]

Hey Matt, if I am vegging from clone for 1-2 weeks then switching to 8-9 weeks of flower do you think I can get away with using a 2 gallon smart pot? Or should I just stick to the 3 gallon regular pots I am using?

I prefer bigger pots because they mean less waterings so less work. What strain are you doing? How big do you expect the plants to be?

 

[SlightlyVaped]

For this round I am going to be running Ken's Kush to see if she is a keeper, next run I'll be looking for a legit Harlequin cut or some other high CBD strain (I need some high CBD ice wax!).

I'd like to keep them under 3 feet from the top of the pot to the top of the cola but that's not always possible (no matter how many times I supper cropped it didn't phase my tahoe last run).

btw I believe I read somewhere you are working with harlequin, so if a cut ever ends up at southbaycrc let me know!

 

[Matt Rize]

For this round I am going to be running Ken's Kush to see if she is a keeper, next run I'll be looking for a legit Harlequin cut or some other high CBD strain (I need some high CBD ice wax!).

I'd like to keep them under 3 feet from the top of the pot to the top of the cola but that's not always possible (no matter how many times I supper cropped it didn't phase my tahoe last run).

That might like a bigger pot. Like you said, topping will keep the plant shorter, but that won't decrease pot size requirements. Growing with a slightly oversized pot is easier than nursing root-bound plants thru until harvest. The harlequin is going around, Im about to flower a few. CBD ice wax is in the works...

 

[SlightlyVaped]

Nice looks like I'll stick with what works, was just hoping to get a little more head room in the tent.

Cheers!

 

[venenodalata]

Hey Matt, how do u use HUMBOLDT 0-10-0 or Nature`s Nectar P, as it`s in the bottle or less than that? I`m using the Canna BioFlora 16ml/gallon and 2-4ml gallon of Nature`s Nectar P, but i don`t know if it`s enough or not! Thanks man!!!

 

[Matt Rize]

Hey Matt, how do u use HUMBOLDT 0-10-0 or Nature`s Nectar P, as it`s in the bottle or less than that? I`m using the Canna BioFlora 16ml/gallon and 2-4ml gallon of Nature`s Nectar P, but i don`t know if it`s enough or not! Thanks man!!!

I don't use either of those anymore. I can't tell you if its enough either. Its should be. Can you post a picture?

 

[Matt Rize]

Kushman moved to my town and we've been hanging out dabbing.
His nute line is almost ready, I should be testing my next grow with it.
Here's a pic of us at some expo in SF. Big up RPsmoke!

 

[moash]

What will be the name of this nutrient line...
Is it Veganic?

Kushman moved to my town and we've been hanging out dabbing.
His nute line is almost ready, I should be testing my next grow with it.
Here's a pic of us at some expo in SF. Big up RPsmoke!

 

[sharpshoota]

what new matt
been a while since ive been on riu, been hiding the last few months haha. Kushman has his own nute line!!?? you get that book out yet? any big changes with veganics, still having good success??

 

[Matt Rize]

what new matt
been a while since ive been on riu, been hiding the last few months haha. Kushman has his own nute line!!?? you get that book out yet? any big changes with veganics, still having good success??

Kushman's nute line is almost done with development and testing. We are smoking flowers grown with it already. But the line is still being perfected.

The book is almost done. Its in the works I promise that.

Big changes with veganics? Not really? My line up for soil mix and nutes are listed a couple pages back.

Haha, nice avatar granny with a silenced gun.

 

[moash]

Matt:
Post#1435???
Also,will it be only locally available?

 

[sharpshoota]

Kushman's nute line is almost done with development and testing. We are smoking flowers grown with it already. But the line is still being perfected.

Haha, nice avatar granny with a silenced gun.

yeah my granny is crazy, too bad shes getting arthritis in her trigger finger haha

just curious... has kushmans line been in a side by side controlled experiment yet??

 

[Matt Rize]

Matt:
Post#1435???
Also,will it be only locally available?

Probably not, he is teamed up with a big company that you all know. Should be available nation wide.
Its is veganic.
And for sharpshoota. I'm going to do a side by side with biocanna.

 

[CaliWorthington]

I should probably read through the entire thread before posting, but 144 pages is a lot. I will read it all though.

I had the same basic idea for Veganics back around 1995. I began to compile a list of plant based ingredients which contain the nutrients we use in organic gardening. I moved several times though, and never followed up on it. I'm sure lots of people have had this idea over the years. Glad to see you guys really doing something with it! Now I can jump in with the benefit of your research and experience.

I was looking for Neem Cake, and found what appears to be another good source. They have 10 lbs. for $25, or 20 lbs. for $35, with shipping included. It's organically grown, but not certified because they dislike paperwork. (I have no affiliation with this company, just trying to help fellow gardeners). They're located in Florida.

http://neemtreefarms.com/neem-cake-p-368.html

For my first attempt, I'm thinking of trying the following mix:

Canna Coco
Sunshine Mix #1 or Biobizz Light-Mix
Vermiblend (until I can make my own vegan compost next time)
Neem Cake
Alfalfa Meal
Forxfarm Big Chunk Perlite

How long do you let your mix mature before using it, 30 days? Also, do you think a little Greensand would be good? Thanks man!

 

[GrowJahsGift]

Holy shit man just read thru the thread all 145 pages. Took me like 5 days gettin at it when I could. Just wanted to say thanks for your ongoin commitment to deal with the hate and to try and simplify the whole Veganic process been running the GO line for the last couple runs and I'm liking it so far but I'm started to see what was said about the CalMag+ being weak my girls can't get enough of that shit. And the feed heavy I also realized along the way damn P defs! Anyway I came into this Knowing very little about Veganics other than my bottles said "Veganic" on them. I knew that would be the best way to grow but didn't know why. I'm about to pull some plush, Ktrain and a Darkstar off and it is easily the best buds ive ever grown especially the plush that fucking smell man! Anyway big ups for this whole thread and leaving me with a better understanding of what I need to work towards before I can pull off some full melt like you've been rubbin in our faces lol. Anyway keep it up for the cause man I'll be following your advice for as long as you wanna give it.

 

[Matt Rize]

I should probably read through the entire thread before posting, but 144 pages is a lot. I will read it all though.

I had the same basic idea for Veganics back around 1995. I began to compile a list of plant based ingredients which contain the nutrients we use in organic gardening. I moved several times though, and never followed up on it. I'm sure lots of people have had this idea over the years. Glad to see you guys really doing something with it! Now I can jump in with the benefit of your research and experience.

I was looking for Neem Cake, and found what appears to be another good source. They have 10 lbs. for $25, or 20 lbs. for $35, with shipping included. It's organically grown, but not certified because they dislike paperwork. (I have no affiliation with this company, just trying to help fellow gardeners). They're located in Florida.

http://neemtreefarms.com/neem-cake-p-368.html

For my first attempt, I'm thinking of trying the following mix:

Canna Coco
Sunshine Mix #1 or Biobizz Light-Mix
Vermiblend (until I can make my own vegan compost next time)
Neem Cake
Alfalfa Meal
Forxfarm Big Chunk Perlite

How long do you let your mix mature before using it, 30 days? Also, do you think a little Greensand would be good? Thanks man!

Hey, welcome to RIU and thanks for posting all that.

30 days is good for letting the soil mix age, longer is better but you know how it goes.
Greensand, yes, good stuff, don't use too much.
I would not use coco as the base, but instead a peat or peat/coco blend.