Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

GrowJahsGift

GrowJahsGift

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Matt Rize said:
Yeah, and most of what I know if from Tim as well...
65 to 70 is what I do, for about 24 hours. I figure better too soon than too late. I should get a real scope one of these days. Tim sells them on his site.
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I'll have to go get that tea outta the tub the fridge is ok I Think read on one of the 146 pages that it's good for about 10 days and then 10 days after dilution? Right? Sorry man newb teamaker
 
GrowJahsGift

GrowJahsGift

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agmo79 said:
whats all this talk about adding neem and neem cake to the soil will this not be counter productive considering neem is a natural fungicide and antimicrobial that would kill all ur microlife(myco fungi, protozoa etc.) in ayurvedic medicine they use it as a remedy for a lot of things like athletes foot fungus, and ringworm, if it could kill this what would it do for your good fungi? Most neem based foliar sprays tell you to re-inoculate even if using as foliar, so what would happen if u added it directly to soil? Especially since these sprays are diluted, wouldnt pure concentrated neem be bad? If I was a growing and using organics I would only use neem on a as needed bases not as a preventive measure, only use it if u have a problem, not before the problem.
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Used google found this

The studies on the effect of both type of neem cakes (n-hexane extracted & expeller extracted) on symbiotic and non-symbiotic nitrogen fixing bacteria have revealed that it had n-adverse effect on its growth with the exception that n-hexan extracted neem cake stimulated the growth of certain species of Rhizobium-in vitro
http://eprints.hec.gov.pk/1221/1/941.html.htm
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

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agmo79 said:
whats all this talk about adding neem and neem cake to the soil will this not be counter productive considering neem is a natural fungicide and antimicrobial that would kill all ur microlife(myco fungi, protozoa etc.) in ayurvedic medicine they use it as a remedy for a lot of things like athletes foot fungus, and ringworm, if it could kill this what would it do for your good fungi? Most neem based foliar sprays tell you to re-inoculate even if using as foliar, so what would happen if u added it directly to soil? Especially since these sprays are diluted, wouldnt pure concentrated neem be bad? If I was a growing and using organics I would only use neem on a as needed bases not as a preventive measure, only use it if u have a problem, not before the problem.
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I think you seriously misunderstand what neem cake is. Neem cake is a plant meal left over after the cold pressing, very different than cold pressed neem oil which contains high levels of azadirachtin. Neem cake is slow release like any meal/cake. Neem cake is a preventative, not a cure for anything. It also feeds to soil food web. Without high levels of azadirachtin, the cake is beneficial to the soil life.

Ahimsa Organics Neem Cake - OMRI Listed
Slow Release Nitrogen, Aerates, Nourishes, Promotes Plant Growth & Resistance, Improves Soil Quality. Excellent for Vegan Organic Gardening.
Neem Cake is the residue obtained from neem seed kernels which have been crushed to extract the oil. Rich in N-P-K, it is an excellent organic fertilizer. Neem cake has been known to enrich the soil and protect the plant. Earthworm populations have been known to increase where neem cake has been applied.

Use full strength or mixed with other organic (kelp, seaweed, manure, etc.) or inorganic fertilizers to an extent of 10% to 15% by weight. Apply before (the area can be prepared up to a week or 10 days before planting) or during planting or for established plants around root zone. Use mixed into the soil 6-8 inches or as basal dressing. Coverage:180 to 360 lbs./acre, 1lb. for plots 100 to 160 sq.ft.

Exercise caution while using in potting mixes. Using more than 1% could cause a lack of seed germination or stunt young plants.

For more information on Neem Cake, visit
www.plasmaneem.com

5 lb. bag - $10.00
44 lb. (20 kg.) bag - $45.00

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This is pure, unformulated neem cake and is not registered for any specific use.

Ahimsa Organics Karanja Cake
With a high nitrogen content, Karanja Cake can be applied either as a basal or top dressing and provides the crop with essential nutrients. The cake is left after extracting the oil from Karanja seeds. It is excellent organic manure.

Use full strength or mixed with other organic (kelp, seaweed, manure, etc.) or inorganic fertilizers to an extent of 10% to 15% by weight. Apply before (the area can be prepared up to a week or 10 days before planting) or during planting or for established plants around root zone. Use mixed into the soil 6-8 inches or as basal dressing. Coverage:220 to 450 lbs per acre.

Exercise caution while using in potting mixes. Using more than 1% could cause a lack of seed germination or stunt young plants.

For more information on Karanja Cake, visit
www.plasmaneem.com

5 lb. bag - $10.00
44 lb. (20 kg.) bag - $34.00
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NightbirdX

NightbirdX

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What up, Matt! Things are looking good brother. Your PB looks dank! I wish I had gotten some more color out of mine, but damn they sure are crazy dank. I don't mind crazy green phenos though. :P Did the pic of mine with the 3 colas look Space Queen dom to you? I was looking at pics of SQ, but it doesn't really look like her either. Either way, I'm very happy for sure. :)
 
CaliWorthington

CaliWorthington

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I was the one who mentioned putting 5-10% Neem Cake in the mix, so that misunderstanding was probably my fault. I actually had read the post Matt quoted above, where it says "Exercise caution while using in potting mixes. Using more than 1% could cause a lack of seed germination or stunt young plants." I guess I missed that part the first time.

I just ordered some VAM-Endo Mix, Ful-Humix, TM7 and Ful-Power from Bio-Ag. They told me the VAM-Endo Mix needs to come in direct contact with the roots. So you want to dust the roots with it when you transplant, that's the best way to use it. I'm planning to alternate between TM7 and Ful-Humix powders with each watering. The Ful-Power liquid humic is best used for foilar spraying, but can also be used for watering.

Still gathering the rest of the ingredients for my veganic soil mix.
 
upthearsenal

upthearsenal

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Anyone here use the GO line?

Thoughts? Suggestions?

I'm thinking of trying it out, maybe even doing a GO/Biocanna side-by-side in straight pro-mix...

The starter box thing has a lot of bottles though, I guess I'd have to see exactly what each is for.
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

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upthearsenal said:
Anyone here use the GO line?

Thoughts? Suggestions?

I'm thinking of trying it out, maybe even doing a GO/Biocanna side-by-side in straight pro-mix...

The starter box thing has a lot of bottles though, I guess I'd have to see exactly what each is for.
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I'm still using the biocanna, but im using GO calmag and bioroot with the vega/flores/bioboost. GO calmag has been working very well. Root... I can never tell with those kinds of products. Ive seen some nice gardens with the whole line but never ran it myself.
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

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NightbirdX said:
What up, Matt! Things are looking good brother. Your PB looks dank! I wish I had gotten some more color out of mine, but damn they sure are crazy dank. I don't mind crazy green phenos though. :P Did the pic of mine with the 3 colas look Space Queen dom to you? I was looking at pics of SQ, but it doesn't really look like her either. Either way, I'm very happy for sure. :)
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I think the pink pheno is the space queen dom pheno. Right?
And my room has been on the cold side... not the worst when ur bumpin' plushberry.
 
GrowJahsGift

GrowJahsGift

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My plushberry are blowing Me away with trich coverage and density on the GO line with no soil amendments other than dolomite I'm at day 45 of flowering and their my two best plants hands down I will try and post pics soon so you can see what the GO line is all about.
 
NightbirdX

NightbirdX

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My SQ dom is starting to pinken up a bit as she finishes it seems. just like the BCS dom is starting to purple more. How long do you run yours for? i was going to go for 8.5-9. Congrats on the sticky. When did that happen? I miss these things on occassion.
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

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NightbirdX said:
My SQ dom is starting to pinken up a bit as she finishes it seems. just like the BCS dom is starting to purple more. How long do you run yours for? i was going to go for 8.5-9. Congrats on the sticky. When did that happen? I miss these things on occassion.
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8.5 to 9 is what I do as well. Your SQ does look like the Pink pheno of Plushberry.
Thanks on the sticky, I just got one here and one in the concentrates forum for my hash thread :mrgreen:
 
upthearsenal

upthearsenal

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It's a sticky!!! Whoo..

I love going back and reading the first few pages, people were so skeptical, lol... now where are we? ;)
 
Matt Rize

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upthearsenal said:
^lmao...

I didn't even see those Plushberries till now, wow they look great Matt, brilliant as always.
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Thanks UTA. I little trick I use is flowering one light under MH. Its keeps the whole room healthier, altho that light yields less. Also, the buds flowered under MH always have the most color... makes good pics. :)

My veganic haters are still many, they just don't even try posting here anymore. I can't believe it, but I think I outlasted my trolls :)
 
upthearsenal

upthearsenal

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So you have your whole garden in rotation, rotating from the hps to mh? Or are they all fixed? I've seen people finish off their plants under mh, which is something I'd like to try if I ever run two HIDs.

Do you just go run by run, or do you do a perpetual?

I think you starved the trolls, that's really the only way to get rid of them ;)
 
upthearsenal

upthearsenal

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Matt Rize said:
Yo big up di CollieMan1! One love idren.

I use a 400 and 600 MH to veg, then switch to two 600 MHs and a 600 HPS at 12/12. Then 2 HPS and 1 MH two weeks later. All HPS by 4-6 weeks into flower depending on the length of the cycle.
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Whoops, here's my answer I guess. Found it by accident thumbing through the pages :leaf:
 
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agreed on a MH making the whole garden healthier. i run 2 MH 1000w in each of my 6k watt rooms. makes for excellent spectrum coverage. the buds under my MH are always a bit smaller, but the colors are amazing and they always seem to smell fruitier than the buds under my HPS bulbs. the hortilux eye blue MH is an epic bulb!
 
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