Growing Orchids

[Rottedroots]

Nepaljam.. Really digging holes this big and as rich as I do is outdated. They now say use more native soil and dig wide not deep holes. I'm having trouble doing that. LOL. I still go by the rule you need a five dollor hole for a fifty cent plant. Azoned... I have a better chance of walking on water than getting Taro to grow here in Z6. It's colder than a woman's heart most winters. There is a hardy calidium I think which may be called Elephant Ears about but needs more sun than I can give it.

bear that hole ain't for planting....It's for catching bear but now that you mention it I could bury someone in it. mmmmm


Ha Ha danny. Of course I have Dirr's book but I also have an answer to most of your suggestions....

Within 100 yards of this particular hole I have Red Maple, White/Yellow/grey birch, Weeping Willow, Alders, Red Choke Cherry (all blight or sumpin effected) at least three kinds of Oak, Pussy Willows, enough Sambucus to produce wine including a purple leaf one and a yellow leaf one that has been dying for for years and should be pulled, some dogwoods (not shrubby) and so on and so on.

A few years back I ordered a few Summersweet/Clethra Anifoilia and planted it with a great deal of love. How could I not plant something with the name of Summersweet. Low and behold it grew and I found out I had two acres of it all ready and did not even know it.

I was really looking for specimen trees or shrubs and thats a tougher bill to fill. I will look a little closer at the bald cypress. If it does not need full sun it may be a candidate. Right now in the general area I have put a butterfly, and an Oyama (sp) magnolia and another Magnolia that is killing me right now cause I just can't remember the name. Native to the Carolina maybe..Dam it mind brain is toast and I'm not going out to look at the tag. I also have this Calycanthus close by and it's name escapes me to. WTF. I have this one, a native a chinese and a chinese/native cross. The plant in the pic is loving the partial sun.

Danny.... Point me in the way of a nice specimen that will take wet feet and part sun and I will get it.

I wish I could remember the name of this Calycanthus!!! wtf I'm completely fried!!!

Can't find the pic of the purple/deep red Calycanthus.....I give up.

 

[Azoned]

How about a tamarack tree. They're kind of an anomaly...a deciduous conifer. They grow northern mid-west swamps. Might be just what you're looking for.

regards,
Azoned

 

[dannyboy602]

Ha Ha danny. Of course I have Dirr's book but I also have an answer to most of your suggestions....


A few years back I ordered a few Summersweet/Clethra Anifoilia and planted it with a great deal of love. How could I not plant something with the name of Summersweet. HAHAHA...Ain't that always a kicker??? Glad I ain't the only one.

Danny.... Point me in the way of a nice specimen that will take wet feet and part sun and I will get it.

I wish I could remember the name of this Calycanthus!!! wtf I'm completely fried!!!

Can't find the pic of the purple/deep red Calycanthus.....I give up.

i thinking the mag is the sweetbay, M. virginiana and the calycanthus floridus (mb another spp?)is the most common one. but native and beautiful. heres pix i c+p'd

Um while wer're talking bout Magnolias, how about M accuminata or M macrophylla (spelling?) I love those huge leaves.
edit: and really. if you don't have a bald cypress, you won't regret getting one. or the look-a-like, Metasequoia glyptostroboides. the dawn redwood. nice choice. if i think of any more i'll hit ya back

How about a tamarack tree. They're kind of an anomaly...a deciduous conifer. They grow northern mid-west swamps. Might be just what you're looking for.
i think you're thinking of Tamarisk..Tamarix ramosissima..SP?

 

[smokey de bear]

Bahh rotted think of it like adding natural blood and bone meal lol

 

[Azoned]

i thinking the mag is the sweetbay, M. virginiana and the calycanthus floridus (mb another spp?)is the most common one. but native and beautiful. heres pix i c+p'd
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Um while wer're talking bout Magnolias, how about M accuminata or M macrophylla (spelling?) I love those huge leaves.
edit: and really. if you don't have a bald cypress, you won't regret getting one. or the look-a-like, Metasequoia glyptostroboides. the dawn redwood. nice choice. if i think of any more i'll hit ya back

How about a tamarack tree. They're kind of an anomaly...a deciduous conifer. They grow northern mid-west swamps. Might be just what you're looking for.
i think you're thinking of Tamarisk..Tamarix ramosissima..SP?

I might be confused...there is a tamarack and a tamarisk. One is called a salt cedar, here and is not the same as the other. Let me check...

Tamarack Larch, or Tamarack, or Hackmatack, or American Larch[SUP][2][/SUP] (Larix laricina) is a species of larch native to Canada, from eastern Yukon and Inuvik, Northwest Territories east to Newfoundland, and also south into the northeastern United States from Minnesota to Cranesville Swamp, West Virginia; there is also a disjunct population in central Alaska. The name Tamarack is the Algonquian name for the species and means "wood used for snowshoes

The genus Tamarix (tamarisk, salt cedar) is composed of about 50-60 species of flowering plants in the family Tamaricaceae, native to drier areas of Eurasia and Africa.[SUP][2][/SUP] The generic name originated in Latin and may have referred to the Tamaris River in Hispania Tarraconensis

 

[mellokitty]

did somebody say tamarack? i loooooove tamarack.

'tis the yellow stuff on the far shore danny

 

[mellokitty]

holy crap, the REAL gardeners are in this thread, i'm (almost) totally lost.
*packing picnic basket*

 

[Azoned]

Hi mellokitty,

glad I'm not the only one who knows tamarack.....an if we can pool all of our knowledge...

regards,
Azoned

 

[mellokitty]

i love it; it's all over the bc interior.

it's weird.... as a west coast kid i watched the local forests gradually succumb to the pine beetle epidemic, which was disheartening but also not really that different (only in a browner, more shrivelly sort of way), but i actually find the senscence colours of tamarack pleasing.

 

[Rottedroots]

Sweetbay...ty. I have a larch and a gave my bro a dawn redwood and a Brakens brown beauty(sp) magnolia cause he has the room and is just a bit warmer than me. The tamarisk we have here is a shruby thing that likes salt air and flowers nicely but it difficult to keep neat. My big leaf mag has been in the nursery for a few years so maybe it is time to move it. The name fits. I have three diff calycanthus and though they are new to me i like. The purple one is way cool and the white smells great. Maybe a bald cypress if i can avoid buying any more mags. So many plants folks and so little time. bear, i have successfully composted a racoon. LOL. It went in a BIG hole with a little Carol Macki(sp) daphne on it. Plant does not seem to mind.. I may just end up putting another acuba in my hole from hell. Dang it I have to go to work....

 

[smokey de bear]

Lol Ohh tamarack one of the only evergreens not staying forever green, I think it's only of the only conifers that changes color in the fall they are my favorite of the conifers anyways because of how soft their needles are.

 

[Rottedroots]

At least I think it's a larch I gave my bro. Deciduous evergreen type thing?? Sometimes I get so confused. I must be familiar with tamaracK....

 

[Azoned]

deciduous evergreen is an oxymoron.... not all conifers are evergreen. This is that one.

regards,
Azoned

 

[Rottedroots]

Of course evergreens or not deciduous.... but what does that make a larch? Simply a deciduous conifer

 

[dannyboy602]

I might be confused...there is a tamarack and a tamarisk. One is called a salt cedar, here and is not the same as the other. Let me check...

Tamarack Larch, or Tamarack, or Hackmatack, or American Larch[SUP][2][/SUP] (Larix laricina) is a species of larch native to Canada, from eastern Yukon and Inuvik, Northwest Territories east to Newfoundland, and also south into the northeastern United States from Minnesota to Cranesville Swamp, West Virginia; there is also a disjunct population in central Alaska. The name Tamarack is the Algonquian name for the species and means "wood used for snowshoes

The genus Tamarix (tamarisk, salt cedar) is composed of about 50-60 species of flowering plants in the family Tamaricaceae, native to drier areas of Eurasia and Africa.[SUP][2][/SUP] The generic name originated in Latin and may have referred to the Tamaris River in Hispania Tarraconensis[/QUOTE]

Thanks Azoned...I learned a new plant. Actually I see plenty of Larix...but Larix decidua. the one that drops late with beeeaaautiful color. (many customers call to show me dead conifers on their properties only to be totally relieved when I tell them it's DECIDUOUS..then I have to explain what THAT means..lol)but didn't know Tamarack was a common name for Larch and it just went over my head..




'tis the yellow stuff on the far shore danny

[/QUOTE]

Hi mellokitty,

glad I'm not the only one who knows tamarack.....an if we can pool all of our knowledge...

regards,
Azoned

many thx again Azoned...and you're right, we here in the garden forumn have more knowledge than 99% of the other forumns.

Sweetbay...ty. I have a larch and a gave my bro a dawn redwood and a Brakens brown beauty(sp) magnolia cause he has the room and is just a bit warmer than me. The tamarisk we have here is a shruby thing that likes salt air and flowers nicely but it difficult to keep neat. My big leaf mag has been in the nursery for a few years so maybe it is time to move it. The name fits. I have three diff calycanthus and though they are new to me i like. The purple one is way cool and the white smells great. Maybe a bald cypress if i can avoid buying any more mags. So many plants folks and so little time. bear, i have successfully composted a racoon. LOL. It went in a BIG hole with a little Carol Macki(sp) daphne on it. Plant does not seem to mind.. I may just end up putting another acuba in my hole from hell. Dang it I have to go to work....

I love me some 'Carol Mackie' Daphne. The smell is intoxicating. Like Lilly of the valley. Shit, I love all the Daphnes.

@roots..there's one more I thought of overnight.(when I get my best ideas) it's called Fringe Tree or so as not to confuse: Chionanthus virginicus, it blooms around late May, early June, right near my bday and I'm never disappointed with incredibly fragrant pendulous racemes. It is a gangly thing, more wide than high, that I've seen in the Brooklyn Botanic Garden, a mature speciman that was twenty feet tall and bout 50ft wide. The smell is overpowering. I've seen it growing as far north as Connecticut. If I think of anymore I'll get back at ya. Have a great day guys...I'm off to go roller skating with a nine year old...what am I thnking???

 

[Rottedroots]

Careful of your hip danny. Don't want to break a hip that your age. I did NOT know larch and tamarick were the same. Live and learn. I do like the fringe tree. Maybe a nice viburnam? Carlesi I like but not for this hole.

 

[Azoned]

Would a dogwood handle wet feet? or maybe a Jujube tree [Chinese date]. I have a stand around my septic tank. They don't seem to have a problem with water. Raspberries would probably love that hole.
Excess water is almost never a problem here...20in precip/yr. We get LOTS of sun, tough.

 

[mellokitty]

*sighs*
all this mag talk...... i've wanted a mag grandiflora for aeons now, just have nowhere to put it. came this close to just saying fuckit and buying one at a plant show last year..... and then my ride saw me eyeing it up and asked me how i proposed we were gonna get it a 2hr drive away in her mini-suv with no trailer (12' mag grand for $50 is not bad. not bad at all)......

 

[dannyboy602]

Careful of your hip danny. Don't want to break a hip that your age. I did NOT know larch and tamarick were the same. Live and learn. I do like the fringe tree. Maybe a nice viburnam? Carlesi I like but not for this hole.

My fav Viburnum is V setigerum. Lots and lots of red drupes. Great for the wildlife. idk, how about a nice Styrax? Oh and one more...you'll like this..Halsia caroliniana. don't have time to find a pic..the Carolina Silverbell...fabulous indiginous tree. always a treat to see.

Would a dogwood handle wet feet? or maybe a Jujube tree [Chinese date]. I have a stand around my septic tank. They don't seem to have a problem with water. Raspberries would probably love that hole.
Excess water is almost never a problem here...20in precip/yr. We get LOTS of sun, tough.

Def the shrubby dogs would work. Red/Yellow twig, but not the American Dog or the Cornelian Cherry, C mas.

 

[dannyboy602]

*sighs*
all this mag talk...... i've wanted a mag grandiflora for aeons now, just have nowhere to put it. came this close to just saying fuckit and buying one at a plant show last year..... and then my ride saw me eyeing it up and asked me how i proposed we were gonna get it a 2hr drive away in her mini-suv with no trailer (12' mag grand for $50 is not bad. not bad at all)......

M grandiflora isn't hardy that far north...is this the one you meant?