That is the case I am talking about. I believe the judge has issued a ruling on that case. Are they in appeals or something?
Maricopa county attorney going after anyone growing.
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Wolfhound
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Too bad obammas hope & change was all just smoke & mirrors to get elected. Sure didnt do the country any good but hopefully we can all still get our country back in the shape it was in or better shape once he is gone. Good bye to a man that has helped to raise the national debt, had gas prices go from under $1.90 when he took office until the outrageous amounts we now pay. Will not open drilling for oil or anything else to put americans back to work. Even stopped a pipeline and now canad will be forced to sell to china & others !
Even with a democratic congress that gave him everything the first two years he was in office, he got nothing done that has helped our country. Behind the backs of the american citizens (congress too) he let illegal people remain in this country & refuses to deport them ! Talk about taking jobs away from honest americans !
This man cannot be gone too soon.
And yes, I am patriot not a politician or supporter of one party over another but realize what must be done.
Even with a democratic congress that gave him everything the first two years he was in office, he got nothing done that has helped our country. Behind the backs of the american citizens (congress too) he let illegal people remain in this country & refuses to deport them ! Talk about taking jobs away from honest americans !
This man cannot be gone too soon.
And yes, I am patriot not a politician or supporter of one party over another but realize what must be done.
UnderBelly
Active Member
I want to become a happy Oregonian, but there are no jobs. None. None whatsoever. Anywhere in the state.
UncleBuck
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http://portland.craigslist.org/jjj/
over 500 jobs posted on 8/15. or you could get into the treadmill business.
i am so happy i left AZ. best decision ever.
Philosophist
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How does one get into the treadmill business?
Please tell me more about how great oregon is...you've almost convinced me. If it werent for the small plant limit i'd be there already.
UncleBuck
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the treadmill business has its intricacies.
here, the health and medical benefits of treadmills are well known and accepted. just visit a qualified medical person (qualified as defined by the state) 3 times within the last 3 years to document your condition which requires treadmill exercise. take documentation of those three visits required to establish your treadmill need to the local specialty qualified medical person (qualified as defined by the state) who will scribble "treadmills may help" on a piece of paper for $200. take that chickenscratch paper to the state, give them another $200, and they will give you a treadmill usage license!
the best part is that they will also give you a treadmill production license which allows you to have 24 treadmills in repair mode, 72 treadmills in disrepair mode, and 1.5 pounds of usable treadmill parts. you are allowed to accept reimbursement for "supplies and utilities" relating to your treadmill production.
now, i would not suggest just counting on breaking in to the treadmill business with no previous experience. before you scan accept reimbursement for a treadmill, you need to have run on that treadmill for a long time and be convinced of its worthiness. you need to build the best treadmill that you have ever ran on before you start considering venturing into the grader treadmill business.
once you have devoted a few years of your life to the treadmill apprenticeship, learning exactly how to make those treadmills operate efficiently, you can venture into the high end treadmill market. but it takes time.
once you have a treadmill, you have to tweak it. make sure it runs right. then, for 50-75 days, you need to let that treadmill run in a circle before you can harvest it for parts. that is a long time to wait! a wise treadmill vendor will try his best to perpetuate a cycle of treadmills and harvested treadmill parts.
now, keep in mind that treadmills are prone to lots of predators and enemies: little treadmill mites which slow your treadmill down, treadmills need an environmentally controlled area to avoid excess heat and cold, treadmill rot can sneak in if treadmills are left outdoors in late summer without proper ventilation and maintenance, and treadmill thieves may try to take what's yours.
if you can ward off all these treadmill enemies and have the know-how to build and repair treadmills and the patience to test run them in circles (12 hours on, 12 hours off) for several months and the state certified treadmill patients to reimburse you, you can carve a niche in the treadmill biz.
i hope this treadmill tutorial was helpful.
Philosophist
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Can Va medical record work for my treadmill license? and is that 400 bucks to be a "normal" treadmill maintenance worker, or is it a license to be a treadmill repairman for a few (5) other treadmill people that maybe dont have the ability or time to repair their own treadmills? Cuz with those numbers id be SUPER happy with my life!!!!
What are good areas? and are there REALLY good jobs there? or is that just a bunch of craiglsit spam
cheers uncle buck!
Philosophist
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TO some it would seem odd.....but to a Arizonian it business as usual. our government is ALL about the 1%
Bud Grauer
New Member
You guys don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
No Arizona lawyer is every going to sue anybody because an MMJ cardholder got arrested, and no MMJ arrest is going to be dismissed or thrown out of court - the AZ law does not work that way at all.
An MMJ card is NOT A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD.
Correctly, an MMJ registration allows the cardholder that has been arrested for possession of less than two pounds of weed to put on an MMJ defense IN COURT. MMJ is a legal, courtroom defense to a criminal accusation, ya got that? It is like trying to prove self-defense to an assault charge.
This means that the MMJ cardholder has the burden of proof in a courtroom to prove that they were in perfect compliance with the AZ MMJ laws - since nobody on this post seems to even know what the AZ MMJ laws say, it does not seem likely that you could actually prove perfect compliance with the laws.
Cops do not really care if somebody is found not guilty or not at trial - THEY ARE FAR MORE INTERESTED IN ARRESTING PEOPLE.
Notice that before an MMJ cardholder ever even has the chance to prove in court that they were in compliance with the MMJ laws:
1. the MMJ cardholder gets arrested (for a FELONY) and her stash gets destroyed - likely that the cops trash her house and might kill her dog too
2. the MMJ cardholder either has to hire a bondsman to bail out or else sit around in jail for a year waiting for trial
3. the MMJ cardholder gets to explain to all their friends and co-workers why they are went to jail
4. the MMJ cardholder has to turn down all plea bargain offers (most likely misdemeanor probation)
5. (this is the worst part) at trial, the MMJ cardholder cannot simply deny everything - in order to try to prove up the MMJ defense THE MMJ CARDHOLDER HAS TO ADMIT THAT THEY WERE IN FACT IN POSSESSION OF THE WEED. In other words, they cannot just sit silent and make the government prove that they did in fact know about the dope, etc.
6. if the jury (of Mormons) simply did not beleive the MMJ cardholder, they would find the MMJ cardholder guilty then the MMJ cardholder would be facing 6 - 18 months in Tent City
Montgomery never said he was going to target homegrowers.
Correctly, Montgomery said that he is going to target dispensaries. He is going to target dispensaries because they have the money and assets he can seize - for example, if a landlord knowingly rents out a storefront to an MMJ dispensary, then Montgomery can use the forfeiture laws to seize the property from the landlord.
The whole idea of "AZ Medical Marijuana" is BULLSHIT (with one interesting exception, see below) - it does not offer any real legal defense to a felony pot possession charge. All that law does is bring dope smokers out into the open where the police can so easily bust them.
MMJ dispensaries are cash businesses. Credit Card companies and banks will not let them use credit cards or debit card machines (to avoid violating the Federal Controlled Substances Act). MMJ dispensaries are the perfect kind of "business" to attract organized crime - this is what Montgomery is upset about (also he is looking forward to easy property forfeitures).
The good news is that 30,000 people got MMJ cards and presumably 1000's of them are going to the hydroponics shops, ordering seeds thru the mails, (stupidly) growing pot openly in their backyards, and illegally selling their "medical" pot. This creates an overwhelming burden for AZ law enforcement.
Now is is much safer and much easier for the casual homegrower to grow and smoke quietly and peacefully.
Cops don't really give a shit about pot or pot growers, but they will bust somebody if (1) there is a citizen (snitch) complaint or (2) they catch the person red-handed. Even if they have a complaint, they might drive by and take a look see, but they are not likely to spend any time on an investigation.
If the cops ever stop by the house of an MMJ cardholder, only an idiot would let them in or admit to being in possession. They almost certainly would not go thru all the trouble to get a warrant first.
No Arizona lawyer is every going to sue anybody because an MMJ cardholder got arrested, and no MMJ arrest is going to be dismissed or thrown out of court - the AZ law does not work that way at all.
An MMJ card is NOT A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD.
Correctly, an MMJ registration allows the cardholder that has been arrested for possession of less than two pounds of weed to put on an MMJ defense IN COURT. MMJ is a legal, courtroom defense to a criminal accusation, ya got that? It is like trying to prove self-defense to an assault charge.
This means that the MMJ cardholder has the burden of proof in a courtroom to prove that they were in perfect compliance with the AZ MMJ laws - since nobody on this post seems to even know what the AZ MMJ laws say, it does not seem likely that you could actually prove perfect compliance with the laws.
Cops do not really care if somebody is found not guilty or not at trial - THEY ARE FAR MORE INTERESTED IN ARRESTING PEOPLE.
Notice that before an MMJ cardholder ever even has the chance to prove in court that they were in compliance with the MMJ laws:
1. the MMJ cardholder gets arrested (for a FELONY) and her stash gets destroyed - likely that the cops trash her house and might kill her dog too
2. the MMJ cardholder either has to hire a bondsman to bail out or else sit around in jail for a year waiting for trial
3. the MMJ cardholder gets to explain to all their friends and co-workers why they are went to jail
4. the MMJ cardholder has to turn down all plea bargain offers (most likely misdemeanor probation)
5. (this is the worst part) at trial, the MMJ cardholder cannot simply deny everything - in order to try to prove up the MMJ defense THE MMJ CARDHOLDER HAS TO ADMIT THAT THEY WERE IN FACT IN POSSESSION OF THE WEED. In other words, they cannot just sit silent and make the government prove that they did in fact know about the dope, etc.
6. if the jury (of Mormons) simply did not beleive the MMJ cardholder, they would find the MMJ cardholder guilty then the MMJ cardholder would be facing 6 - 18 months in Tent City
Montgomery never said he was going to target homegrowers.
Correctly, Montgomery said that he is going to target dispensaries. He is going to target dispensaries because they have the money and assets he can seize - for example, if a landlord knowingly rents out a storefront to an MMJ dispensary, then Montgomery can use the forfeiture laws to seize the property from the landlord.
The whole idea of "AZ Medical Marijuana" is BULLSHIT (with one interesting exception, see below) - it does not offer any real legal defense to a felony pot possession charge. All that law does is bring dope smokers out into the open where the police can so easily bust them.
MMJ dispensaries are cash businesses. Credit Card companies and banks will not let them use credit cards or debit card machines (to avoid violating the Federal Controlled Substances Act). MMJ dispensaries are the perfect kind of "business" to attract organized crime - this is what Montgomery is upset about (also he is looking forward to easy property forfeitures).
The good news is that 30,000 people got MMJ cards and presumably 1000's of them are going to the hydroponics shops, ordering seeds thru the mails, (stupidly) growing pot openly in their backyards, and illegally selling their "medical" pot. This creates an overwhelming burden for AZ law enforcement.
Now is is much safer and much easier for the casual homegrower to grow and smoke quietly and peacefully.
Cops don't really give a shit about pot or pot growers, but they will bust somebody if (1) there is a citizen (snitch) complaint or (2) they catch the person red-handed. Even if they have a complaint, they might drive by and take a look see, but they are not likely to spend any time on an investigation.
If the cops ever stop by the house of an MMJ cardholder, only an idiot would let them in or admit to being in possession. They almost certainly would not go thru all the trouble to get a warrant first.
Chronicseeker
New Member
Montgomery never said he was going to target homegrowers. [/QUOTE said:
BeaverHuntr
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I'm looking for the link but there was a PDF link that showed a Yuma MMJ patient who was arrested for possession and in court her charges were dropped and the MMJ was returned to her because she was in compliance with state MMJ law.. I just read it like two days ago.
BeaverHuntr
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There it is.. You guys should read it..
HB DC
Active Member
Vote for no one!
You are mistaken mate!
Read the Arizona Revised Statues
Title 36 of the Public Health and Safety within Chapter 28.1 Arizona Medical Marijuana Act - Would be a great start...
A.R.S. 36-2811(B)
A registered qualifying patient or registered designated caregiver is not subject to arrest, prosecution or penalty in any manner, or denial of any right or privilege, including any civil penalty or disciplinary action by a court or occupational or professional licensing board or bureau: 1. For the registered qualifying patient's medical use of marijuana pursuant to this chapter, if the registered qualifying patient does not possess more than the allowable amount of marijuana.
2. For the registered designated caregiver assisting a registered qualifying patient to whom he is connected through the department's registration process with the registered qualifying patient's medical use of marijuana pursuant to this chapter if the registered designated caregiver does not possess more than the allowable amount of marijuana.
3. For offering or providing marijuana to a registered qualifying patient or a registered designated caregiver for the registered qualifying patient's medical use or to a registered nonprofit medical marijuana dispensary if nothing of value is transferred in return and the person giving the marijuana does not knowingly cause the recipient to possess more than the allowable amount of marijuana.