Hotrod didn't win the election. He's acting like he did though. That's disturbing. Democrats and Republicans represent special interests who all are across the board statist authoritarians. That should scare people. Instead people treat it like a sport and believe they are somehow a part of the team. They aren't.
The Japanese offered surrender before the bombs dropped. Both were absolute war crimes.
Lol
Dropping nukes on civilians for no reason is a war crime.
You heard wrong. Hostess killed itself. The union was minor.
You're an embarrassingly stupid and ignorant person. Go away please.
More disturbing are those like you who contribute little and whine a lot.
Revenge isn't justifiable or moral. They offered complete surrender before any bomb dropped.
I edited your quote to underline why we weren't gonna play that game. I disagree about the bombings being war crimes. It's the nature of war to be awful. The only difference between a halberd in the pancreas and Hiroshima was scale. Lots of civilians got the hard end of the halberd. cn
Bullshit. Pure bullshit. The Japs didn't offer to surrender after the first bomb so they got the second. Post actual facts proving otherwise.
Your issue continues in one direction, regardless of who's in power. It's a side show political circus. It's a gigantic joke. Ever notice how many Republicans turn out to be gay? They say one thing, do another. Ever see any movement other than in one direction for things like abortion and gay rights? No, you really haven't. Because they've only gone in one direction and will continue to go in that direction. They're a hell of a good divider issue while the real major issues get completely ignored. IE: The fact ORomney thinks the executive can do anything it wants to anyone regardless.
But but but. That is the power of the American idea. He has the inalienable right to be ... not right. cn
Justice isn't served by murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
Of course they did. It still doesn't justify the slaughter of people who had nothing to do with the death camps. Especially since Japanese leadership had already offered surrender and basically nothing changed about the ultimate resolution. Except that hundreds of thousands were dead for no reason.
i'm pretty sure my gay friends who want to get married don't think it's a joke. i'm pretty sure women i know who don't want the government to own their fetus don't think it's a joke.
The same deal was written up. Think the Russians would have invaded after that deal was signed? Because they would be effectively declaring war on America. That's a really weak rationalization if I ever saw one. But the history books are written by the winners, and often in America. So it's no surprise they are often littered with weak rationalizations.
If you can show me where to look that up, I'd appreciate it. cn
Nice speculation on your part.
I misspoke, it wasn't identical. Japan wanted to keep their Emperor, but the American deal had him ousted and the specific deal wasn't written, but all the important details would have been agreed upon by Japanese officials.
Japan Seeks Peace
Months before the end of the war, Japan's leaders recognized that defeat was inevitable. In April 1945 a new government headed by Kantaro Suzuki took office with the mission of ending the war. When Germany capitulated in early May, the Japanese understood that the British and Americans would now direct the full fury of their awesome military power exclusively against them.
American officials, having long since broken Japan's secret codes, knew from intercepted messages that the country's leaders were seeking to end the war on terms as favorable as possible. Details of these efforts were known from decoded secret communications between the Foreign Ministry in Tokyo and Japanese diplomats abroad.
In his 1965 study, Atomic Diplomacy: Hiroshima and Potsdam (pp. 107, 10, historian Gar Alperovitz writes:
Although Japanese peace feelers had been sent out as early as September 1944 (and [China's] Chiang Kai-shek had been approached regarding surrender possibilities in December 1944), the real effort to end the war began in the spring of 1945. This effort stressed the role of the Soviet Union ...A Secret Memorandum
In mid-April [1945] the [US] Joint Intelligence Committee reported that Japanese leaders were looking for a way to modify the surrender terms to end the war. The State Department was convinced the Emperor was actively seeking a way to stop the fighting.
It was only after the war that the American public learned about Japan's efforts to bring the conflict to an end. Chicago Tribune reporter Walter Trohan, for example, was obliged by wartime censorship to withhold for seven months one of the most important stories of the war.
In an article that finally appeared August 19, 1945, on the front pages of the Chicago Tribune and the Washington Times-Herald, Trohan revealed that on January 20, 1945, two days prior to his departure for the Yalta meeting with Stalin and Churchill, President Roosevelt received a 40-page memorandum from General Douglas MacArthur outlining five separate surrender overtures from high-level Japanese officials. (The complete text of Trohan's article is in the Winter 1985-86 Journal, pp. 508-512.)
This memo showed that the Japanese were offering surrender terms virtually identical to the ones ultimately accepted by the Americans at the formal surrender ceremony on September 2 -- that is, complete surrender of everything but the person of the Emperor. Specifically, the terms of these peace overtures included:
- Complete surrender of all Japanese forces and arms, at home, on island possessions, and in occupied countries.
- Occupation of Japan and its possessions by Allied troops under American direction.
- Japanese relinquishment of all territory seized during the war, as well as Manchuria, Korea and Taiwan.
- Regulation of Japanese industry to halt production of any weapons and other tools of war.
- Release of all prisoners of war and internees.
- Surrender of designated war criminals.