But I have a question though Kynes,
Since the "according to the Torah" is your reason why Israel is justified in it's occupation of another people, does the Torah even support Zionism?
Explain "right of conquest" again for me please.
still having trouble with the big sentences arent you.
the torah's information AS PREVIOUSLY STATED is:
israel was created by the conquest of territory held by the Philistine civilization. later the land of israel was conquered by the assyrian and baylonian empires. the assyrians and babylonians installed a puppet monarchy and held that teritory as a province of their empires untilll...
we finally enter the region of reliable history, with the roman conquest of israel, which they later renamed Judea, and later after several jewish uprisings, they renamed it Palestine, and made it a military occupation zone untill rome fell and the area became subject to the persian empire, and eventually the ottoman empire before the British Empire took it by force in ww1.
so, the torah's information on this subject is limited to HISTORICAL DATA on the founding of the nation of israel, not it's religious justifications.
your strawman is still not any good. try putting more effort into it next time.
Conquest is the nature of all societies.
Ur of the Chaldees, purported to be the First City, First Nation and First Kingdom on earth was founded by somebody saying
"We are The Chaldeans. This place is called Ur. We live here. If you wish to dispute that we will fight you."
every nation since has been founded on the same principle, "Because i said so! Wanna Fight About It?" those nations which win the fight swallow up the nations that lose, and losing is prima facia evidence that the losing nation was invalid from the start.
what part of this is so hard for you to grasp?
throughout history if two nations go to war the borders between them MOVE based on who wins. sometimes entire peoples are swallowed up by their conquerors, and sometimes those empires fall apart from within, and new nations are born, or old one resurface based on social groups, traditions and yes, even religions.
issues of conquest and sovereignty are settled in the juris martia, not by debates in coffee houses. only silly foppish Whigs and psuedo-intellectual marxists believe anything else.
