Dirtfree
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+REP to you sir for predicting the future!
2 Pounds Per Light
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+REP to you sir for predicting the future!
Uncle Ben
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"Pot calling kettle black" comes to mind.
Sheesh, another shit-fer-brains politicking to his groupies........accusing me of what he's guilty of.
UB
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Dirtfree
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Boo hooo are we done! We have gotten totally of point!
Back to what I posted a couple pages ago........Its possible......it just takes practice and getting everything dialed in.
As my old boss use to say.......there is a thousand ways to skin a cat but this ones mine so just hold the tail and shut up!
Back to what I posted a couple pages ago........Its possible......it just takes practice and getting everything dialed in.
As my old boss use to say.......there is a thousand ways to skin a cat but this ones mine so just hold the tail and shut up!
Thank you for all of the advice. I actually already have an ec/ppm meter so I'm good there. I'm a numbers guy so I would want a meter to check ph, just because but I hear you that it isn't necessary, like I said it helps me sleep at night lol. The pit falls of soil are numerous for sure, although quite forgiving at times. As for the strain, I only know one person and I want to make sure I get a good producer. I hit the seed bank today and dealt with it, so now time to germinate. Its gonna take quite a while to switch over probably a couple of months to get any real quantity so I have to start now. Once again, you and Bob Smith have been very helpful and I do appreciate it. Hopefully others have learned a great deal from this thread.
Can't agree more about moving to E&F - a simple, no nonsense hydro approach that doesn't require constant monitoring.
If I could feasibly run a vertical E&F, I would (but I'm forced to do either aero or NFT with my setup).
Good luck no matter which direction you end up going.
If I could feasibly run a vertical E&F, I would (but I'm forced to do either aero or NFT with my setup).
Good luck no matter which direction you end up going.
Tyrannabudz
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Have you considered a light mover? I love mine, and so do my ladies. Just to help you get even light across your canopy. Some of Remos grows are in 20 gal. trash cans. Cool shit for sure.
Thanks for chiming in, we all appreciate it.
Dirtfree
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No, they where just measuring their internet penises. Like I said before there is more than one way to skin a cat. UB has alot of good information! I learned alot about reading my plants from him. But just like anything eles you have to take what someone says like a grain of sand.
They where just having a pissing match. Both are right in some respect. Just because someone doesnt grow the same way you do doesnt mean they are wrong. Everyone has something to learn. Its weather or not you choose to.
Have a great day everyone and have a open mind as well!
Instead of a light mover, a better idea (IMO) would be to have two lights on a flip flop - less electricity usage (no mover moving, obviously) and less to go wrong (movers crap out all the time) - also easier to setup the aircooling, etc.
I.e., instead of having a 1K on a mover over a 4x6 area, have two 1Ks turning on and off each hour or two - lotsa good flip flop journals on the web if you're interested.
Initial setup is a little more expensive (buying the flip flop relay and an additional ballast, reflector, etc.) but it's WAY worth it, IMO (and the growers I've talked to who run them swear by them) - after doing a few grows to get my 4 vertical 600s dialed in, I'm going to replace them with 4 1Ks and run them on a flip flop (2 and 2, obviously).
Phyzix, no one is comparing anything - everyone is giving their opinion and the OP can decide who s/he thinks is more credible or whose ideas most closely resemble what s/he is trying to accomplish.
I have no issue with UB's main theme of "take care of your roots and foliage" and agree wholeheartedly with that premise; it's his (what I perceive to be) total tunnel vision in any methods that he hasn't tried (which is the overwhelming number of them) being "wrong" or a "fad" that I feel is destructive and probably dissuades a decent amount of people from expanding their own growing horizons.
That's simply my opinion, and his of me seems to be a "shit-fer-brains"; not a problem at all - I know he's wrong and getting defensive about it so I don't get worked up about it and report him to the moderators - it's the Internet, everyone needs to toughen up.
The last thing I'll say is that someone's results matter to me a lot more than how many years they've been growing; i.e.JACKMAYOFFER has been growing for about three years, is now running 60 thousand watts in his flowering rooms, and is very knowledgeable on any subject I've seen him speak about - just pointing out that one need not grow for 30 years to understand what makes a (more importantly, "your") plant tick.
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puffntuff
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op vent back into your house so its recirculating then you wont have to worry with the outside. i keep my house at around 69-70 degrees so its all good i got the lights vented into my ductwork so it just goes out into another room. when i said fresh air i didnt really mean outside air but that works too. im in agreement with dude on your genetics being good it just takes time and tweaking your system till your happy with results. ub is right about the roots tho keep them happy they keep you happy.
I have a 1000 watt setup with no co2 and a 600 watt setup with c02. The 600 watt setup produces more because of the ventilation - same strain. I agree with having super healthy root structure so the plants can uptake the nutes, this is a constant and the plants will let you know what they like or dislike. I use 6 -9 3 gallon under 4x4 canopy. Better results with just 6 plants...
Highlanders cave
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That was too funny,,, Spainard walks into that almost as if on q that dmfer lol
I'll let you know what I think when I'm done reading your thread hudson,,,I'm always mixing up the numbers, size of container, dif veg times and all.
And ya got to be able to vent your area, preferably with a dedicated exhaust. That's a must I would think. Later man, I'll try and get back to you
Some interesting ideas here with the light flip flop, not sure its applicable in my situation, I would say dialing in my room is priority number one right now but thank you for putting out the idea. This thread has tons of really good info in it, not just for me but many other people.
Good call I'll have to do a little work on that. So far everything is going well, I'm just about to start flowering and all the plants are good and healthy. Had a thrip issue but I dusted my plants and soil with diatomaceous earth and I see no more damage. Really amazing stuff that I sort of wrote off even as I was dusting my room down with it, but boy does it work. My next step was spinosad and avid because I've been fighting these little bastards for at least 6 months but maybe longer. I encourage anyone who hasn't given it a try to do so, its dirt cheap. Ok sorry, I'm off topic, back to 2+ per light, lol.
Good to have you in the thread, anything you can add would be great. I'm trying a few different combinations this time around. I have a 5x5 in 3 gallon pots, 4x4 in 3 gallon pots, and 3x3 in 3 gallon pots. All of these are spread to cover a 25 sq ft area. Time will tell what works the best in my situation, but I'm still interested in what everyone has to say.
Highlanders cave
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Hey there hudman whats going on.
I'm thinking it's a lot simpler than it's being made out to be, and your on the right track with going with a higher yielding strain the Cali-O. I'm in a very similiar boat with the yield thing. I harvest one crop each month out of one of the budrooms that I have and I would love to get a lb each time, it's close but it's not quite generally between 12 and 15 oz. And like I said earlier I try dif techniques and such and run several dif strains but the thing is,,,none of my strains would really be considered big yielders as I opt for quality first. In that flower room I use one light and about a 36 sq ft footprint. Everything is stripped from the middle of the plant down so there is pretty much no larfy buds.
Sooo,,,what I am doing to increase my yield (after getting my rooms dialed in pretty tight) and hopefully produce some dankness on par with the phenos that Ive hunted down over the years, is add a couple of new strains to my stable. The mother of one of my strains is Cali-O as well lol. The breeder is Chimera and he has a few higher yielding strains that are supposed to be quite dank. We shall see,,,,I germed 32 Chimera beans last week and now I have 32 little babies to hunt down the best ones.
Pretty stoned on some Ice this evening my friend
Out of about 6 or 7 strains that I run this particular cut is pure rocket fuel!
Catch ya later
Oh and your ventilation issue is going to need to be resolved. Subcool has a thread call Get your ducts in a row that may help a little. And your climate should not have to much to do with it. Sounds like we have similiar seasons,,,,hot summers and brutally cold winters. Eighteen inches of snow right now on one of the peaks just a few miles from my house lol
I'm thinking it's a lot simpler than it's being made out to be, and your on the right track with going with a higher yielding strain the Cali-O. I'm in a very similiar boat with the yield thing. I harvest one crop each month out of one of the budrooms that I have and I would love to get a lb each time, it's close but it's not quite generally between 12 and 15 oz. And like I said earlier I try dif techniques and such and run several dif strains but the thing is,,,none of my strains would really be considered big yielders as I opt for quality first. In that flower room I use one light and about a 36 sq ft footprint. Everything is stripped from the middle of the plant down so there is pretty much no larfy buds.
Sooo,,,what I am doing to increase my yield (after getting my rooms dialed in pretty tight) and hopefully produce some dankness on par with the phenos that Ive hunted down over the years, is add a couple of new strains to my stable. The mother of one of my strains is Cali-O as well lol. The breeder is Chimera and he has a few higher yielding strains that are supposed to be quite dank. We shall see,,,,I germed 32 Chimera beans last week and now I have 32 little babies to hunt down the best ones.
Pretty stoned on some Ice this evening my friend
Out of about 6 or 7 strains that I run this particular cut is pure rocket fuel!Catch ya later
Oh and your ventilation issue is going to need to be resolved. Subcool has a thread call Get your ducts in a row that may help a little. And your climate should not have to much to do with it. Sounds like we have similiar seasons,,,,hot summers and brutally cold winters. Eighteen inches of snow right now on one of the peaks just a few miles from my house lol