Cool. I posted in his thread.
No no, watch what you say, you don't want to end up on a list if I'm right...We have to find a non volent way out of this or we'll just fall into their trap of depopulation and martial law.
We also have to avoid protests, or be very careful about it because they'll end up like this:
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Protests seem pointless, we have no rights and if you are caught in a protest you loose even more. In oregon you loose the right to drive if you are caught in a protest that doesn't have a permit or are accused of trespassing or vandalism or anything. All kinds of things are tied to loosing your right to drive these days I only found that out when I had to go get a new ID recently.
I can't find the protest where three police were caught red handed trying to pose as protestors and throw rocks at the police so that the police can then forcibly stop the protest, but you get the idea. Some of them will try anything including vandalism or burning their own cars, or whatever it takes to acheive their goal. It's their job...
It's become a crime to even photograph the police in action in this country, you can see it on youtube.
Maybe just a nationwide sit in, where we all stop working and get all our neighbors to stay at home and make sure our loved ones and neighbors stay safe, and watch over our own neighborhoods and help feed and care for eachother and educate people who aren't in the know yet? Not sure what to do... But not a civil war...Or anything of the sort where the government could justifyably start killing people.
We are the people and the workforce that makes this country possible, and our spending and shopping make it possible, our taxes make it possible. If we just stay at home en mass, everyone, and shut the whole thing down for as long as it takes to force regime change, maybe that would work to break out of this matrix we are stuck in.
I forgot to mention how we undermined our press, or are still allowing huge corporations to merge with others and become even more powerful and dictatorial over ourselves and other countries.
I also forgot to mention that the countries we didn't directly invade or use the US to "help" with milatary on site or weather wars we covertly undermined their economies with the IMF and World Bank, free trade fine print, and crashing the stock market. Plus allowing the stock market to continue to operate somewhat profitably by basing most of the recovery on food and fuel speculation, even though that directly causes people to starve all across the whole world and causes great political instability everywhere, part of the fuel that has driven worldwide regime change. Then we use the regime change of leaders we didn't have control over to put their militaries in charge which we control, or a puppet of the US/UN which we control, or if that's not enough slow the countries to a stall and cause a stalemate in their internal struggles/civil wars so they're endlessly bogged down in war. And it goes on and on...
And of course we didn't fix the stock market problems, busted nobody for insider trading, but now blame the unions and state workers salaries for our problems, and one by one are in the process of creating state dictatorships like wisconsin and their emergency powers or setting up for federal martial law at the drop of a hat especially if bailouts and budgets aren't passed through congress and the senate.
I think most countries would rather we default on our debt and do a complete about face to avoid ww3, but clearly we aren't.
Huge huge problems, all can only lead to much much worse... It doesn't hurt anyone to be prepared for the worst even if I do sound like chicken little and turn out to be wrong. I also wonder who we owe the 14 trillion to... I think it was just made up out of thin air because china hates us and refused to loan us anything quite a while ago and nobody else had that kind of money.
And today on CNN they're doing stories about baby penguin and raccoon, and something else so dumb I forgot it already. A giggling baby and the royal wedding and the reporters are all smiles.
Anyone who's not in support of this government which is probably over 50% needs to educate the others and try to pull something like that home sit in off, and force a change in laws and regime. Not just house and senate, nor just the whole white house, but judicial and military and deprogram policemen, even some of the firemen have been militarized, the DHS, the TSA, NSA, CIA, FBI, corporate heads, stock market leadership, the whole system has to be cleared and revamped looking for anyone who doesn't have a record of working in the best interests of this country and the people. Then we have to go though and deprogram all those that have been mislead and filled with propaganda that's led us the wrong way, including whoever has the wrong attitude about turning this country around. It really does seem like so many people are filled with hate and predjudice etc, that it's a form of brainwashing of it's own, that is if many were not outright directly brainwashed by secret mkultra type stuff or chipped or just our skewed media and information wars and horrible values system.
The worst thing in the world would be the military in charge... Or any type of conflict whatsoever. You'd be suprised at how many people actually think this country needs to be depopulated heavily, it's no joke there's seriously bad misinformation being spread about.
We have all the space needed and technology needed to support the population we have within our own borders, growing enough food to go around... Nothing has been done to put a single effort towards producing all the food we could in city and urban environments or regreen the whole country to combat co2. You may not have seen legislation to tax us for breathing but that's pretty much what carbon credits are and the whole international system of carbon legislation. If we truly had a co2 problem it would be easily affected by greening up all non green space everywhere.
Say for example:
We aren't doing anyting like this because we are under bank and corporate control and it's not profitable it would seem. 14 trillion dollars and all the people working to look for terrorists, and grope you at the airport, and fight wars in other countries, and wars on drugs, etc could have done all this and much more in every city easily.
And who knows better how to grow things than folks like us? co2 problem solved...No problem...
This also reduces global warming just by natural cooling effect, using the sunlight instead of reflecting it and heating up all the cities like bare concrete and buildings do.
There is no excuse to be doing all we are doing other than money and keeping this type of economy going, but we don't need this type of economy any longer. Rich people don't need to earn another dime they're plenty rich already. There is no reason we all have to even work 40 hours a week anymore if you streamlined everything, and cut out all the waste and reduced the cost of living and took out profiting on the misfortune of others or jailing non violent people etc.
And get rid of all the laws where we don't even own our own property. Where we have to work just to pay property tax and sales tax, pay for the water we drink or the electricity we use, especially if we had used a good portion of that 14 trillion to go renewable. Even those that already have their homes paid for can't just really retire and grow their own food and live off the land ever the way the economy has inflation built in and all these extra costs. We could grant everyone the homes they live in, the businesses they run, the land they're on now, the apartments they're in now, etc, and completely split from the whole old system. Then watch the attitude and metal state of everyone in the nation rise. Productivity, creativity, inventions, everything would skyrocket if people didn't have to work 40 hours a week just to squeak by and try to save all their lives and climb the ladder enough to outpace huge expenses. If everyone didn't have to go to work every single day just to get by, what kind of reduction in co2 and fuel usage would that give? Dependence on foreign oil would be completely wiped out. Traffic congestion would be practically gone. Want to reduce c02, make busses and mass transit free everywhere. People would be so happy and bored most of the time many if not most would want to volunteer just to do menial things like rebuild our infastructure, bridges and roads, regreen forests and parks, and what have you... There's no end to how much better it could be.
I know now I sound like a tree hugger right, and that's a bad thing right?
It's just all wrong, there's no sense in continuing down this path. We could easily get rid of the whole worlds monetary system entirely and simply trade raw materials and finished goods back and forth, work for advancement or to avoid boredom or to enjoy socializing and get that kick we do from helping others, maybe to get extras, but not just to live or to eat or drink or stay warm or for health care...
I doubt one single actor would quit working, one single movie wouldn't be made, one single tv station would go off the air, one less house would be built, or one crane or loader or backhoe or tractor or truck or whatever needed would go unused if it were all for fun and the right reasons. Actors long to act, teachers long to teach, tons of people just love to drive or play with trains or heavy equiptment etc and as people build skills they can work to better jobs than driving a bus or planting trees or lesser things they tire of. It wouldn't have to be thought of a socialism or communism or anything with some evil connotation to change the whole system. A system like that would be nothing like anything any country has actually ever had before. No socialist or communist country ever let their people choose to not work if they didn't want. Or go to school for free or eat drink live have entertainment free.
Why pay for cable or internet or sattelite anyway when it's all propaganda and ads? They would/should be happy to provide all that free if they didn't have to pay for the operation and land and people and materials.
And don't get me started on lobbyists etc, nobody would argue that should never have been possible in a free country by and for the people.
If all people in all nations were given these same opportunites, and not held down or back we'd have no war, no corruption, no more threat of terrorism...No worry about corruption, not a single thing to worry about period.