Newbie with a Rough Situation but a Hopeful Plan. Please Help!

its asking for a URL

for the pictures.

hopefully my pics are in here.

ok sweet

here are the pics from five minutes ago

Robweed said:

ughhhhh!!

i just got home and it looks worse now. its spread to more of the branches on top!!
im trying to press that button to post pictures but its not letting me

the temps range in the 90s. since its in a closet it gets a bit warm while im at work but when i get home i open the door.

yes using distilled. i used tap water that i let sit and ive been using that for about the last two weeks.

ginormous is by humbolt. its for blooming. the nutes are, 0-18-16. i only used bwtween 1 and 2 ml in a gallon of water.

i have a measuring cup next to my girl that i measure out about a cup of water a day and then if its dry i sometimes do another one. lately ive been using the nuted up water for watering.

i didnt water it for a day and a half.

i water a cup or two every day.

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here you go, your watering method may be a problem
if you don't water sufficiently to get a good outflow, decay products/salts build up in the soil, you should see about 1/4 of the volume you water with come out as outflow
the hard water may have accelerated the issue
my best guess is you have built up a quantity of toxic stuff in the soil

how should i correct that?

im just using soil, should i get something to maybe make it looser so it flows better?

what would you reccommend?

lets get a second opinion from the good Dr, he should be posting sometime
soil compactness shouldn't be the issue, though that could be a complicating factor
mostly it's about less frequent watering, but heavier watering, watering everyday is usually bad
i know you have high temps, so that does alter the equation a bit
i use 2 gallon pots and water with 2 quarts of water once a week, but my grow chamber temps are much cooler

who is the good Dr?

what should i do in the mean time? i need to get her better because i plan on switching to flower within the next two days.

so should i re pot her? how should i clean out all those salts?

and from now on should i only water like once every four or five days and water with as much as you do? what about nutes? is your watering scheudle of 2 quarts once a week, nuted up water?

i meant drdank, he seems pretty knowledgeable
if this is the main problem, looks like 2 choices, flush or transplant
flushing should get the crud out, flushing means 2-3 times the total pot volume
but i'd probably transplant, starts with a fresh slate
when watering, make sure there is a good outflow, water slowly
best way to judge when to water again is by weight of pot, takes a while to get used to it, the pot will be much lighter when it needs water again
daily watering may lead to problems like root rot and other unpleasant stuff

ah yeah mr dank

ok yeah. im going to transplant now. any advice on how the best way to do that is?

so the way i prevent this from happening is just heavy waterings once a week? should i be using nutes in that water?

couple of ways seem much used
one is to invert plant and pot over with a hand underneath
could be disastrous if dropped, so don't drop, best for smaller plants
gently massage root ball to get old soil off
the other is to put the pot/plant in a bucket of water and gently wash soil away from the root ball
changing your watering technique should get rid of this problem
start with just water, seems safer than hitting with any nutes at the moment

I'm not sure you are going to be sucessful transplanting something that big in the sense that you are thinking of cleansing away all of the old dirt. I would flush with distilled and check the PH of the runoff so hopefully we can see what happened. After that, you need to let that plant dry out!

As far as your problem. You say you have been giving nuted water everyday with bloom nutes? I'm guessing P and K abuse leading to lockout. Your water may also have to much calcium in it. Also, you do not want to go into flower until this is somewhat fixed.

You will also be best served methodically explaining everything in the plant problems section.

ok thanks so much. dude youre a savior ha

so whats the best way to flush this out?

and is reverse osmosus filtered water ok to use as well?

i just dumped an entire gallon of distilled water through it. do you think thats enough?

How big are your pots? Considering you have been watering with nutes and it's just drying up in the pot and not draining. I would at least put the volume of the pot through there. 2 gallon pot/2 gallon flush. Some say up to 3x....but jeez. After you get these flushed out, your medium should start to clear up. Your fucked up leaves...are going to stay well fucked, but I think you have enough folliage left to pull off a decent yield and hopefully you'll gain a bit staying in veg. I know you wanted to flower, but this is going to set you back a week if not 2. Your going to want to post pics in a couple of days to compare and take the next course of action. PH strips are cheap...you need to be checking the run off and do an experiment on your tap water. BTW, also get a water mister...you may need it soon.

While it's drying you need to start thinking about your heat. 85 max at the top of the canopy, 80 would be good and 75 would be great. Need some good pics of the set up. With CFLs and PC fans, you need a fan to blow between the canopy and the light and you need a lot of exhaust up top...it becomes less about what CFM the air exhange needs to be for the plants and more about getting hot air out of the box as fast as possible. Overkill is good in this case.

I just wanted to post this for a little inspiration.

This is a plant from my current grow. Notice me being retarded on the bottom of the plant. With a lot of help, knock on wood I've got it straightened out as you can see from the rest of the plant. Took a lot of patience and expert help, but I think will end up ok.

ok yeah.

i flushed it and she looks a little better already this morning.

i kinda finished my grow cab last night. i need to make a few adjustments but so far so good.

what i need is timers.

i need a timer for my lights for when i entire 12/12. and i then i need a timer for my ozone gen.

i need it to be able to turn the thing on for 20 minutes every two hours. or any time inbetween.

recommend any? where should i look?


here is my box. i have an input fan that draws in fresh air and then a white poster board on the other side with a fan the draws hot stinky air out into the little chabmer that holds the ozone gen. the visable fan on the ozone gen sucks air in, cleans it with the bulb, then spits it out the bottom. on the bottom of that chamber there will be a 80mm pc fan exhausting air.

i got my work cut out for me thats for sure. but im feeling pretty confident about it.

i just need to get some drill bits and if i decide to do a light block on the intake fan, i need to make sure it doesnt restrict flow to the point where it doesnt bring in enough fresh air for the plant and to cool off the temps.

I'm not really sure how effective compartment 2 is going to be in neutralizing the air. I had something different in my head. That deal needs to be air tight.

I can't tell if I am looking at this correctly, but I think I have some design tips that can help with your temps. You may be doing some of this, but I can't really tell from the pics.

1) Your intake appears to be high blowing right on the lights. You want the intake low as possible to draw in cool air and the exhaust as high as possible to get the hot air out. Hot air rises, right? You need a little squirrel cage fan inside the box to blow on the lights to dissipate the heat and increase air circulation. But you don't want your intake air being heated up right away. The light trap will cut down your intake power especially with a PC fan. Are you sure you need it if you are in a closet? I like my holes in the back for 2 reasons..1) you can't see them, it's more stealth 2) light really won't get to them if you have a wall behind it.

2) It looks like you only have 1 exhaust fan. For 8 CFLs, I would do 3 if you are using PC fans. You need more exhaust than intake to create negative pressure. This will help with smell leaking out of the box anyway.

3) I'm still concerned about height being issue. Your plants are going to stretch in the first few weeks of 12/12 and probably at least double in height. LST or SCROG will most likely need to be employed.

4) Timers. You need a heavy duty dual outlet timer, probably with a grounded plug. The best ones are digital with a battery back up. You can get a mechanical one, but if your electric goes out your cycle will not stay on track. Also, if you have fat thumbs like me and accidentally press down a button, your cycle will get a jolt. Not that big a deal in veg, but if you do it in flower you are increasing your chance of hermies.

yeah im going to do some scrog. ill start the plant at one end of that cage frame and direct it to the other.

shit i didnt even think about the hot air rising thing. how loud will that squirrel fan be? i dont have too much more captilal to spend on this. so buying another hundred dollar fan sets me back a lot.

the box will sit in my living room, not in a closet so i need lots of stealth applied. i cant do the holes in the back because that is where my doors are. the cupboard style boards face the wall.

so how many fans does that give me?
just to clarify, i do one 120 mm intake fan in the bottom of the box. a squirrel cage fan some how attached at the top of the box to blow air around the lights, then i have my 120mm fan blowing air into the ozone chamber thing, then think i could get away with one fan blowing that ozone air out?

For the lights, you can buy a little squirrel cage desk fan or 2 at Target for like 5 bucks a piece.

Why are the doors facing the wall?

I would say 3 pc exhaust fans for the box. As far as exhausting the ozone chamber...I don't know about that whole deal