Outdoor Bud Quality

a mongo frog said:
Fuck she's beautiful!!! Is that fire cut from California?
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It was picked up from a dispensary in Long Beach yes. I was getting this nugg maybe 3-4 years ago. When that LB shop ran out I found that same nugg in Riverside, but shortly after she was gone forever :( Thankfully I found two bag ceeds, one had mad lil white pods in each flower but never no viable ceeds, other is the one you see here. The one that had pods was tight lil nuggs like an og, this one has big colas, and smells nothing like an og. And Thank You for the smiles, thats exactly why I do this.
 
OK I know why old boy and alot of others think its comparable is because you have to be smoking sub par Indoor Nuggets thats the only explanation for you feeling this way. I think once you smoke enough super flame indoor and thats the point for indoor to be super flame. Just like his pics you just seen with me. Im sorry but I'm a grower for a long time and a super smoker so I know for 100% indoor beats outdoor for potency and sometimes flavor but not always on flavor. You have a lot of outdoor plants that pulls more flavors from its environment. I will say I would smoke outdoor full melt hash before indoor and indoor doesn't fully melt. That being said there is definitely something about OD that I like alot especially mine. But my indoor is my favs and alot of other people I supply to.
gR33nDav3l0l said:
If you really know how organic beings function, you'd realize it DOES has chemicals in it. Like THC is a chemical compound.
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Synthetic or natural, a chemical compound IS a chemical compound. Plants need chemical compounds to live, just as us. I just find it ridiculous to say "I smoke shit with no chemicals in it", "I grow shit with no chemicals", organic chemistry is still chemistry. Worm castings are basically high concentrated nitrogen molecules. It's wrong to use synthetic chemicals, but it's better to use artificial light? What about hydroponic weed?
Most of the food we have eaten in our lives was fed with industrial synthetic chemicals, the "organic" movement is relatively new. I understand the commercial aspect of the idea of "sterile" (bug, pest, gluten free) "medicine" though (considering that high THC potency is not the only medicinal aspect of cannabis, although it is no cure for any illness, but rather a symptom relief in most cases).
 
Ya thats a heavy yielding Fire OG cut, mine kinda sucked from Harborside . I think it was DHN and they do very good usually. I think mine was a quick pick pheno to get it to the public maybe. Its ok and all but it burns the nostrils bad and the throat on everybody no matter how I change up the nutes. I threw everything away because PM started on a mom so I just said Fuck it and started from seed this Summer no more clones for a minute. Im also going all Biobizz and no Molasses, Im gonna probably use Terpenator instead.
 
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personal lux said:
hehe look your getting mad. Im being a dick because you chose to put your 2 cence where it doesnt belong. oh yeah is there a lot of outdoor harvest to trim in april where you live lol. I own multiple homes. I own a concrete business thats what i do for a living. I understand hard work and putting effort into what i do. I dont cut corners.
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Whaaaaat you own multiple houses??? You look like your only 12 years old .... I'm guessing you must have some rich ass parents huh
 
treemansbuds said:
That could be a web from a mite, more than likely a web from another species of spider, can you tell the difference? Tough to get everything when you average 7lbs a plant. I see no mite damage if any kind in that picture. No sprayed on chemicals here, I'd rather smoke a mite or two than the shit you spray on your indoor plants. Do you think the mites stay as the bud dries? I doubt it.
Good luck bud,
TMB-
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I have personally smoked mr. TMB's 'infested' (LOLOLOL) stuff...I have been smoking for 30 years, and it was and is to this day, some of the best I've ever smoked. And the taste? OMFG!
 
TWS said:
Lame hippy shit. They are not synthetic chemicals. They are derived from the same elements as organic minerals that the microbes break down. just two different ways to get them to the plant. if your in it for a profit only a moron grows indoor in soil.
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I love my indoor soil, nothing like watching benes grow in front of your eyes. I profit because it makes me happy :bigjoint:001.jpg
Thats a solo cup holding a 3 foot bean pole, Ill be the moron :dunce: !!!!
 
Leave the soil outside where it is intended to grow the dank shit with the sun as intended .

LOL. Buzz, that was a general statement intended to get bite. don't bite. Slower growth and megar yields don't pay the light bills just to ride the hippy bandwagon.
 
Ace Yonder said:
Indoor costs more, not outdoor. Indoor you have to pay for lights and electricity, outdoor you get that free. Even when you're flowering and the light cycle is the shortest, it is still like $50+ per month per 1K watts, even more during veg, so if you're growing anything large scale that adds up fast. Then add in fans and filters, which is an upfront cost + electricity + replacement when the filter wears out. Then add in environmental control, AC or heating, dehumidifying, etc. Then add in space, since no matter how you cut it indoor space is more expensive per square foot than outdoor space. As a matter of fact, this may, in the long run, be where the biggest savings are to be had. A small house or warehouse is much more expensive than several undeveloped acres. All in all it adds up to indoor having a significantly higher operating cost than outdoor.
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I think you're definitely over estimating an indoor run. Up front you have to pay for your setup but its not that expensive to maintain. Renting a warehouse is not that expensive. I have looked in to a few that are 500-700$ a month for 1500sq ft. Good thing about a warehouse is youre on a commercial rate and electricity is cheaper.

Outdoor you need to buy good soil or make your own (people spend 5k just on amendments), smart pots or build planter boxes, buy a sprayer for pest control, build cages if you have deer around, develop the land (renting heavy equipment), figure out a way to get water to your grow or buy a big container to hold it. Plus buy the acerage or if you rent it out you're paying up front (people in CA asking 20k upfront cash to RENT the land for a season). Next how are you going to live on the land? Build some type of house or bring a mobile setup in.
 
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adower said:
I think you're definitely over estimating an indoor run. Up front you have to pay for your setup but its not that expensive to maintain.

Outdoor you need to buy soil, smart pots or build planter boxes, buy a sprayer, possibly develop the land (renting heavy equipment), figure out a way to get water to your grow or buy a big container to hold it. Plus buy the acerage or if you rent it out you're paying up front (people in CA asking 20k upfront cash to RENT the land for a season). Next how are you going to live on the land? Build some type of house or bring a mobile setup in.
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Don't you buy pots, a sprayer for indoor? Your just not running enough electricity yet, so your not paying for electricity out the butt! Wait till you start getting light bills on the 7k of lights and hit the top tier on your bill! Plus you need a place to rent or pay a mortgage on that's big enough to hold a sizable operation to sustain you and itself all indoor. Sound like it's starting to add up also. I think those 500/700 a month warehouses go up once they know your growing in them. And I believe you need a business licence to get commercial rates for warehouses. I know my farm needs a business licence to get it..
 
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TWS said:
Leave the soil outside where it is intended to grow the dank shit with the sun as intended .

LOL. Buzz, that was a general statement intended to get bite. don't bite. Slower growth and megar yields don't pay the light bills just to ride the hippy bandwagon.
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I just pulled 13 plants with 3 1/2 pounds, 3-4 week veg gives me 3 ft plants. Veg under t5s and flowered under 1000s. I always wondered what I could do if I tried hydro or dwc, couple buddies do it but they suck, veg is slower and yields are lower. Guess I need to see the right setup before I switch to soilless.
 
757growin said:
Don't you buy pots, a sprayer for indoor? Your just not running enough electricity yet, so your not paying for electricity out the butt! Wait till you start getting light bills on the 7k of lights and hit the top tier on your bill! Plus you need a place to rent or pay a mortgage on that's big enough to hold a sizable operation to sustain you and itself all indoor. Sound like it's starting to add up also.
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Correct, I did have to buy pots. However, it all comes with the grow system. Those big tripple gal smart pots are way more expensive than a 2 gallon plastic bucket. I did buy a sprayer. However, look at the sprayer that jj had to get versus the one I have. I bet his is at least 2X more expensive. I do expect a big bill for electricity, thanks for reminding me :P. I was just trying to point out that it is not that much more expensive to have an indoor setup versus outside.
 
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