The klx Way!

oill said:

How often do you flood the table? I think some nft fabric at the bottom could boost your yield

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A NFT mat would be totally unnecessary and useless here.
The function of a NFT mat is to get an even spread of water in your NFT tray.
If you would not use the mat, the water could go down in a small stream to the end of the tray.
The mat prevents that. Because of the principle of capillary the water would spread out all over the tray.
The mat also breaks the surface tension.
In Ebb & Flow the water already reaches the whole surface of the tray. When you fill up a 100 x 100 cm tray with water, there is water on every square cm.
A mat would be totally useless, and a waste of money.

Also the roots don't need anything to grow into.
Growing into something is only useful when you don't want your plants to flip over.
But a trellis net prevents that. So also for this reason you don't need a mat.

And how and why could it boost his yield?
I am really curious.

I am interested to see if the coco mat increased root growth. Maybe having something to latch on to would help them to build, particularly in the first couple of weeks. For $17 it is worth a try in a tray, and if there is no noticeable difference then can put the idea to rest.

klx said:

I am interested to see if the coco mat increased root growth. Maybe having something to latch on to would help them to build, particularly in the first couple of weeks. For $17 it is worth a try in a tray, and if there is no noticeable difference then can put the idea to rest.

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Some growers use quilt batting on the bottom of their flood/drain tray to retain moisture between floods and something for the roots to hold onto.

klx said:

I am interested to see if the coco mat increased root growth. Maybe having something to latch on to would help them to build, particularly in the first couple of weeks. For $17 it is worth a try in a tray, and if there is no noticeable difference then can put the idea to rest.

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Sure you could give it a try. But then several tries in several periods of the year. Otherwise the outcome, either positive or negative would not tell a lot.

BuddyColas said:

Some growers use quilt batting on the bottom of their flood/drain tray to retain moisture between floods and something for the roots to hold onto.

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Retaining moisture could be a good reason, but earlier in this same topic KLX told that he did a 30/30 on/off schedule. He did not see any difference.
So I doubt if having that tiny bit of extra water (because of soaked matt) in his tray will make a huge difference.
I think that then running the pump 15/15 on/off instead of 15/45 on/off will have a better result.

Keesje said:

Sure you could give it a try. But then several tries in several periods of the year. Otherwise the outcome, either positive or negative would not tell a lot.

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Only need to try it once. Will know straight away if it makes any difference. Will know probably in the first month of flower just by looking at the root mat.

Havent posted any pics in a minute so...

Gunslinger, Cheese, GDP Day 40







Day 3.

klx said:

Day 3.

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they look like giants for day 3!

Keep us posted please about your yields.

Keesje said:

they look like giants for day 3!

Keep us posted please about your yields.

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Low yielding strain, so extra big clones to try to get the most out of it.

The tray these went into just got jarred - 17.5 ozs. Mostly Glueberry OG which yields ok.

That is about 500 grams in the metric world, I guess.

For how long did you keep your clones in the cloner before you transplanted them?
Did you feed them anything?

Keesje said:

That is about 500 grams in the metric world, I guess.

For how long did you keep your clones in the cloner before you transplanted them?
Did you feed them anything?

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Yes was like 502 or something like that.

Those big clones were in the cloner for 3 weeks. After about 10 days when the first roots started to form I added 50% strength veg nutes so you could say that they vegged for about a week in the cloner.

New batch of clones with spray bottle for size reference



After taking clones I cut back my mums hard, they love it



Tray 1 Day 44

Tray 2, Day 10 Before:





...and after:





Tray 1, Day 48

Would there be a big difference in yield if you would not lollipop them or take a lot of leaves off?

I can imagine that it takes the plant a lot of energy to restore the wounds and such.
And as you only flower them for 8 weeks, perhaps they don't have enough time to get back on track again.
I don't know; just wondering.

Keesje said:

Would there be a big difference in yield if you would not lollipop them or take a lot of leaves off?

I can imagine that it takes the plant a lot of energy to restore the wounds and such.
And as you only flower them for 8 weeks, perhaps they don't have enough time to get back on track again.
I don't know; just wondering.

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Some strains respond better than others. I always lollipop them as I want the air to flow underneath and the time taken to trim the tiny larfy buds is not worth it. Regards taking leaves off, I usually experiment a bit the first 2 or 3 times I run a strain to see what it likes best, but I have found that most strains dont mind it at all.

Flower time is also strain dependent. These current strains are 9+ week strains.

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Day 56

Starting to ripen. You can see the frost coming in for sure. You going 70 days or less on these?

Buck5050 said:

Starting to ripen. You can see the frost coming in for sure. You going 70 days or less on these?

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Will take them over a few days starting around day 65.

Its summer here now so frost levels on this run are down a bit compared to winter but will still smoke up a treat.

Day 60. A week or so to go.



Gunslinger got some nice colour even though summer temps. Top:



Lower:



Tray 2, day 22. Happy with this tray so far:



Have a good Chrimbo all!

Beautiful runs man. How is the glueberry OG isnt that from Dutch Passion?

whytewidow said:

Beautiful runs man. How is the glueberry OG isnt that from Dutch Passion?

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Thanks mate, yep Dutch Passion. It is really nice smoke, super fruity and very berry nose which held on through curing, I liked it so did my circle. Unfortunately it threw nanners from about Week 4 onwards. I ran it about 5 times but I could not get it to not throw them so I killed the mum.