BudmanTX
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that smells of Mossad...js
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DIY-HP-LED
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Why US is considering sending Vietnam-era missile system to Ukraine
3,998 views Oct 26, 2022 The US is considering sending Hawk missile systems to Ukraine. The Hawk dates back to 1959 and although it has been significantly updated through time, does its use now indicate broader issues in sending kit to Ukraine?
Budzbuddha
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Might as well use it on ORCS - updated targeting and payloads. Add Hamburger Helper.
BudmanTX
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someone really need to quit smoking...living lite cigs everywhere these days
cannabineer
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Roger A. Shrubber
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that would have been me...and i suggested it as an alternative tactic. quite often they can hit them with rifles, and waste ammo trying. in the same situation, a shotgun would be much more effective.
some asshole here suggested it wouldn't be very effective...maybe we're both right?
Roger A. Shrubber
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the bonesaw guy is on the way...
BudmanTX
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Conscipts that don't wanna fight anymore.....ck this shit out.....
DIY-HP-LED
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Better than scrapping warehouses full of the fuckers. They can provide volume and could be useful for ballistic missiles or even cruise missiles. The cheap drones might be hard to see and a waste, even for an old Hawk.
BudmanTX
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DIY-HP-LED
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Corruption does the same thing to countries and societies too, eats them out from the inside and generally fucks everything up. Sand in the gears of liberal democracy, but vital to authoritarians, who can be wealthy too and used to getting their way by using fear and intimidation. The Russian army is corrupt because the government is corrupt and so are many of the people, the government can lead up or down and this is an example of the terminal phase of down, just before it craters in.
How Corruption Destroys Armies - Theft, Graft, and Russian failure in Ukraine
1,523,467 views May 29, 2022 On paper, Russian military modernisation should have produced a force that could overmatch the Ukrainian army. For more than a decade, funds for modernisation were allocated to State Defence Orders for everything from next generation aircraft and tanks, to new communications and battlefield control systems.
Russian R&D did its part (mostly), turning out systems that won attention and praise at trade shows, while commentators steadily built the Russian army up as an example of a dangerous foe that proved you could achieve more with less in the military procurement space.
Then they invaded Ukraine, and the image was shattered. I've previously explained this by looking at the Russian Defence budget and their priorities in the lead up to the invasion, but in doing that I refrained from focusing on one key issue.
Corruption in Russia is endemic, corruption in the Russian defence sector (like many around the world) is a catastrophe. From the highest levels of procurement fraud, down to the level of the enlisted personal hawking diesel, copper, and even explosives for petty cash, corruption has been a constant thorn in the side of all efforts to modernise the Russian army and mould it into an effective fighting force.
In this video, I try to take a somewhat light hearted look at how corruption in a military context can (and sometimes does) work, citing examples of actual cases and using hypotheticals to demonstrate the kinds of actions that can rot an institution from head to tail. For those of you in countries that face this problem, it should all seem a little familiar.
Examples are taken from the sources listed below and I make no independent representations on the veracity of any claims. I don't know exactly how much is stolen from the Russian defence budget, I doubt anyone does. But what I can do, is help us understand how a nation capable of producing some of the most advanced defence equipment in the world would be running out of fuel on day 3, and be rolling out museum piece tanks less than three months into a major conflict.
BudmanTX
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yeah i can see that......this same guys also did a lot of stuff on corruption as well...here is another of his posts on twitter...seems well thought out
cannabineer
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Passions around the argument notwithstanding, I’d still rather have an auto-firing rifle than a hunter’s shotgun if I were placed in the scenario.
Preferably belt-fed.
Nope_49595933949
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I regularly hunt, shotgun is not going to be effective.
Bold enough to let her bangs hang out of the misogyny of hajib..tortured to death by The Morality Police.
The hajib burned on and self mutilation of cutting hair lit the night sky..
Death of Mahsa Amini - Wikipedia
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Someone got tired.