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cannabineer said:
Iirc this debate began around doing something about Geran-2, a rebranded Iranian Shahed fixed-wing drone that does 185 kph. A shotgun can hit one such, but it would be a lucky shot. Great skeet shooters practice with loads that feel very different from the shoulder-shoving loads usually issued for a military/police shotgun.

Do the Russians use quadrotor bomb droppers?
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Forget about a shotgun with the speed they are going. I do not know if it is a regular thing with Russians dropping bombs but I recall a video of a makeshift drone with one. Whether it was a one of or it is in widespread use by the Russians I am not sure but you would think they would be using them also. That is unless they can not get them, too hard to search the terms now as everything that pops up is about the Iranian ones.
 
Speaking of drones - china is looking to introduce some RoboDogs ( which is a direct ripoff of Boston Dynamics ) which probably gets them built in china anyways.

A perfect reason to stop high end chips and chip making equipment - china is hobbled at 7nm size but IBM has released 2nm chips. Keeping them from manufacturing superchips is the endgame - since the authoritarian regime has basically set in place a war cabinet during this last congress with XI retaining power.

 
printer said:
Forget about a shotgun with the speed they are going. I do not know if it is a regular thing with Russians dropping bombs but I recall a video of a makeshift drone with one. Whether it was a one of or it is in widespread use by the Russians I am not sure but you would think they would be using them also. That is unless they can not get them, too hard to search the terms now as everything that pops up is about the Iranian ones.
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I think the Geran is temporarily in a niche between the envelopes of ground-based gunners and missiles homing on radar or heat.

I suspect that weapons designers are paying attention, and within a few months there will be cheap and mobile weapons that’ll fill the current capability gap and toast tge Shahedski.
But for now, Russia can lob weapons that are remarkably like the Henschel buzz bomb that the Germans used very similarly: to target civilians and erode morale. Like the pissed-off English, I think the effect on Ukrainian morale will be paradoxical.
 
cannabineer said:
I think the Geran is temporarily in a niche between the envelopes of ground-based gunners and missiles homing on radar or heat.

I suspect that weapons designers are paying attention, and within a few months there will be cheap and mobile weapons that’ll fill the current capability gap and toast tge Shahedski.
But for now, Russia can lob weapons that are remarkably like the Henschel buzz bomb that the Germans used very similarly: to target civilians and erode morale. Like the pissed-off English, I think the effect on Ukrainian morale will be paradoxical.
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This can be palletized and put on half tons.


Destroy Russia, VAMPIRE Unmanned Aerial System is delivered to Ukraine

4,321 views Aug 26, 2022 On the 31st anniversary of Ukraine’s independence, the United States is reinforcing its long-term commitment to the nation with $2.98 billion to train and equip the Ukrainian armed forces for their struggle against the Russian invasion. President Joe Biden said the people of the world have been awed and inspired by Ukrainian resistance and pledged the United States will stand with the people of Ukraine as they fight to defend their sovereignty. The Pentagon will buy newly announced air defense systems, counter-drone systems, radars, artillery systems and munitions from industry over months and years with Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative funding and apart from billions in equipment it has sent Ukraine from its stockpiles.
 
Morale building, he didn't transform the Ukrainian army alone, but he was a big fan of NATO doctrine and a driving force. He's also benefitted from excellent intelligence and a lot of strategic and tactical advice from the best in the business and he appears to be one of them. This guy will be guest lecturing at US and NATO staff colleges one day.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585256936685338624
 
Another example of the weapons continuing to pour into Ukraine, they now have a lot of western vehicles, artillery, rocket systems and a ton of support stuff like drones and counter battery radars, even additional Soviet era stuff is showing up from allies. Russia is doomed in Ukraine, and we are seeing plenty of signs of desperation from Moscow as their army collapses on the battlefield. They won't soon forget this thrashing and if they come back again it will go far worse a lot faster for them, if they do come back, it won't be under Czar Vlad, he will be dead or locked up. Anybody like him won't have any more luck, even if they pull out of Ukraine.

The price Russians pay for clinging to an empire is their freedom, because a liberal democracy would mean dissolution of the federation, without the FSB and internal security police enforcing rule from Moscow. Vlad's political party will also have to go or become just another party like the others. Some republics would go their own way, if only to get out from under sanctions. Belarus would be liberal democratic too and the cultural influence of them and Ukraine on Russia would be huge. Only cultural change can lead to political change in Russia and the military can't be reformed until the culture and government are reformed.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585314594993897472
 
If it works, but you could just shoulder the fucking thing and dispense with the pad, unless it has some special feature that would make it better than a well aimed shot. .50 cal would be better and perhaps they can automate it, the cost would be bullets. If it can be detected it can be shot down by a machine, it's just a question of costs. If your accurate enough with sensors and a robot, you don't need to fire 1000 rounds at it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585025986760167425
 
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