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captainmorgan

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It doesn't seem that Ukrainian resistance is interested in taking Russian soldiers alive.

I don't trust the absolute numbers but will reports of Russian soldiers dead is in the thousands and less than 500 Russian POW.

There were early reports of Russian commanders killing their own wounded and leaving their own dead in the field. Those stories came from captured Russian soldiers.
 
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injinji

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There were early reports of Russian commanders killing their own wounded and leaving their own dead in the field. Those stories came from captured Russian soldiers.
I saw a lady who was intercepting Russian phone calls. The main headlines were about the looting of stores, but a soldier was telling his folks back home that they are not picking up or burying the dead. That really got all over him.
 

ANC

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it is a huge machine, I don't even think Putin has the ability to recall his army now... it is on a one-way path...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Vlad desperately needs help and shit like this is part of his MO, however Belarus is a powder keg for revolution and his army might be reluctant to get involved, they get western TV too and know what is going on. Or they could have been bombing Belarus rebels, they don't want ground forces getting to close to rebel military units, they might join them!

I don't think it's UK propaganda either, too easy with radar systems to verify.
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Russian planes bombarded Belarus and accused Ukraine to open new front. All recent provocations

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Russia's War Machine Slowed By Cheap Gear, Expired Rations | Ukraine's Ballerinas Join The Fight

Putin's army is failing in part because Russia's oligarchs embezzled huge sums of money instead of upgrading gear and stocking fresh food rations. Over in Ukraine, members of the country's prestigious ballet companies have put their careers on pause to return home and join the fight against Russia's invaders
 

BudmanTX

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Vlad desperately needs help and shit like this is part of his MO, however Belarus is a powder keg for revolution and his army might be reluctant to get involved, they get western TV too and know what is going on. Or they could have been bombing Belarus rebels, they don't want ground forces getting to close to rebel military units, they might join them!

I don't think it's UK propaganda either, too easy with radar systems to verify.
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Russian planes bombarded Belarus and accused Ukraine to open new front. All recent provocations

that's russia, all over it.......seems like they are going all in with the propaganda machine too....i've found a bunch of stuff
 

DIY-HP-LED

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that's russia, all over it.......seems like they are going all in with the propaganda machine too....i've found a bunch of stuff
His trouble with Belarus is it doesn't work as well, they are surrounded on three sides by free countries and radio and even TV can pour deeply into the country and has for a long time. The guys in the Belarus army for instance, watch this TV, at least the ones who call the shots, and don't want their cocks caught in that meat grinder. If Ukraine declared war on them in a few weeks, they'd be fucked and know it, if they invaded now, they would be fucked quicker.
 

BudmanTX

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His trouble with Belarus is it doesn't work as well, they are surrounded on three sides by free countries and radio and even TV can pour deeply into the country and has for a long time. The guys in the Belarus army for instance, watch this TV, at least the ones who call the shots, and don't want their cocks caught in that meat grinder. If Ukraine declared war on them in a few weeks, they'd be fucked and know it, if they invaded now, they would be fucked quicker.
think i remember there is a rebel faction in Belarus too....fighting in Belarus only
 

DIY-HP-LED

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think i remember there is a rebel faction in Belarus too....fighting in Belarus only
I think Belarus is the next domino to fall and Vlad knows it, he might annex it and make it part of Russia, which would make exposure to western media even worse and sanctions even worse. Then annexing and holding it are two different things with the example that Ukraine showed and their excess arms pouring in and I think they will have a lot of excess weapons too. Ukraine is the perfect proxy for NATO any time they want Vlad to feel pain.
 

BudmanTX

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I think Belarus is the next domino to fall and Vlad knows it, he might annex it and make it part of Russia, which would make exposure to western media even worse and sanctions even worse. Then annexing and holding it are two different things with the example that Ukraine showed and their excess arms pouring in and I think they will have a lot of excess weapons too. Ukraine is the perfect proxy for NATO any time they want Vlad to feel pain.
think i saw in a report somewhere that Yesh and Pooty are talking bout something coming into the idea of that, but i can't be sure....something bout economic co-op and something else.....can't remember now
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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It doesn't seem that Ukrainian resistance is interested in taking Russian soldiers alive.

I don't trust the absolute numbers but reports of Russian soldiers dead is in the thousands and less than 500 Russian POW.
good. then they can't go home, get rekitted, and cause more fuckery
 

DIY-HP-LED

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good. then they can't go home, get rekitted, and cause more fuckery
Right now under international law they are not POWs, they are criminals and the whole lot can be tried in Ukraine for conspiracy to commit mass murder and war crimes. There was no declaration of war or other UN approval, nothing really official or legal from their government.
 

printer

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'This is different': Why internet backbone services are cutting off Russia
Big tech platforms have joined the global backlash against Russia over its invasion of Ukraine....

In the past week, however, the severing of Russia from the global internet went one layer deeper. Two of the world's largest internet service providers, Lumen Technologies and Cogent Communications, said they would block Russian customers from their networks over fears that their networks could be used by the Russian government for cyberattacks against the West. But a knock-on effect is that it will be even harder for citizens in the country to use the worldwide web.

The move highlights the tension over Russia's effort to erect what's being called a digital Iron Curtain to close its citizens off from outside information, much like China has done for years. Companies find themselves caught between helping Russians freely access the internet and ensuring their services are not used by the Russian government to spread disinformation, propaganda or worse.

According to Schaeffer, cutting Russia off is a preventative measure against cyberattacks that may be perpetrated through Cogent's network by the Russian government or individuals linked to it. The company, which is based in Washington D.C., has limited its action to around 25 customers that are incorporated in Russia and are directly on Russian networks, he said. That means Russian businesses that use Cogent's network outside the country through non-Russian state entities can continue to do so.

Lumen, headquartered in Los Angeles, cited similar reasoning for its decision, which came a few days after Cogent's.
"We decided to disconnect the network due to increased security risk inside Russia," Mark Molzen, the company's global issues director, said in an email. "We have not yet experienced network disruptions but given the increasingly uncertain environment and the heightened risk of state action, we took this move to ensure the security of our and our customers' networks, as well as the ongoing integrity of the global Internet."
 

DIY-HP-LED

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'This is different': Why internet backbone services are cutting off Russia
Big tech platforms have joined the global backlash against Russia over its invasion of Ukraine....

In the past week, however, the severing of Russia from the global internet went one layer deeper. Two of the world's largest internet service providers, Lumen Technologies and Cogent Communications, said they would block Russian customers from their networks over fears that their networks could be used by the Russian government for cyberattacks against the West. But a knock-on effect is that it will be even harder for citizens in the country to use the worldwide web.

The move highlights the tension over Russia's effort to erect what's being called a digital Iron Curtain to close its citizens off from outside information, much like China has done for years. Companies find themselves caught between helping Russians freely access the internet and ensuring their services are not used by the Russian government to spread disinformation, propaganda or worse.

According to Schaeffer, cutting Russia off is a preventative measure against cyberattacks that may be perpetrated through Cogent's network by the Russian government or individuals linked to it. The company, which is based in Washington D.C., has limited its action to around 25 customers that are incorporated in Russia and are directly on Russian networks, he said. That means Russian businesses that use Cogent's network outside the country through non-Russian state entities can continue to do so.

Lumen, headquartered in Los Angeles, cited similar reasoning for its decision, which came a few days after Cogent's.
"We decided to disconnect the network due to increased security risk inside Russia," Mark Molzen, the company's global issues director, said in an email. "We have not yet experienced network disruptions but given the increasingly uncertain environment and the heightened risk of state action, we took this move to ensure the security of our and our customers' networks, as well as the ongoing integrity of the global Internet."
It will also make it harder for Russia to attack our infrastructures, power, data and financial, we can more easily monitor every packet of data going into and coming out of the place.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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So, invaders must die? War is fucking my normal too
it's fucking everything...nothing is normal anymore, not even this war.
while saying "normal war" is kind of fucking stupid, in a normal war, you take prisoners of war. also, in a normal war, both sides at least pay lip service to minimizing civilian casualties, and they try not to bomb apartment buildings, private homes, churches, (because people take refuge in them, not because they're "holy") or hospitals, especially maternity hospitals. you also don't declare humanitarian corridors then bomb the civilians using them to escape, and i'm pretty sure that mining them is also frowned upon...putin has never even declared war...so really, all those guys in russian army uniforms are no more than common rioters causing mayhem, and i don't see how the "normal rules of war" can be applied to criminal looters...criminal looters who kill people indiscriminately...
so yeah, the war is fucking my normal.
 
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