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jahbrudda

jahbrudda

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schuylaar said:
haven't you ever heard of a profit share?

my average revenue per client: $3k
my average clients per year: 150
my career with them: 10 years

so that would make my revenue contribution of $450k/year = $4,500,000M

and mr. business man..we do EXPECT it or we get smart and walk..like me:mrgreen:
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So you think are 100% responsible for that revenue?
What a joke, you have no clue how a business operates.
 
greenlikemoney

greenlikemoney

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Speaking of Oracle. Larry ( who rarely worked anyway, who would with that boat of his ) was just replaced as CEO. He retains Executive Chairman and head of Technology R&D ( I believe ) and Hurd ( who came from HP years ago ) and Safra Catz are now co-CEO's. Larry basically is the board room referee.
 
heckler73

heckler73

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jahbrudda said:
With over 122,000 employees, I highly doubt The CEO's $77mil skewed the employees average income by much, irregardless, his compensation is peanuts in relation to the company's total payroll.
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It is correct to presume one person will not shift the stats to a great extent (in this case Δμ ~$650), when considering averages and medians over a sample of 120k data points.
But that is one person out of how many other 7-figure "employees"?
Every time you add one, the average shifts further to the right, while the median sits put (essentially).
So, do you have a breakdown of the top 20 salaries in Oracle?
 
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spandy

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greenlikemoney said:
Logic doesn't work well here with the ideology crowd. In their minds the CEO should make about $500,000 a year and the remaining $76.5 miliion should be equally distributed amongst all employees because, let's face it, just like chesusrice was personally responsible for making his former employer literally millions of dollars over the course of 2 years, every Oracle employee is personally responsible for every drop of profit. I seriously doubt many Oracle employees are complaining about making over $110k/year.
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Unless you are gonna split the power bill and mortage payments up and make the employees help wth that and the advertising bills, etc, then they can just take their agreed upon wage and use it to start their own business. Otherwise, the guy with his name on the building gets to do whatever the fuck he wants to do with the left overs, they aren't "owed" to anyone as they were never promised to anyone.

If you want to be paid like the owner, then you can worry about all the other shit and how it's gonna get paid for, too, just like the owner.

If employees are responsible for every drop of profit, well then they should be responsible for every drop of DEBT as well. company goes tits up, well then lets sell all the employees homes and personal belongings to help pay for it then, since they are responsible for every drop.


Chesus knew damn well that anything he developed while working for that company, they own. If it was such a great thing, Chesus should have quit his job and developed this whatever in his garage, and then sold it for the millions he claims to have made his previous employer. He agreed upon a wage, and took his paycheck, and whether or not he developed this grand thing, he would have kept on taking that paycheck.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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spandy said:
If employees are responsible for every drop of profit, well then they should be responsible for every drop of DEBT as well. company goes tits up, well then lets sell all the employees homes and personal belongings to help pay for it then, since they are responsible for every drop.
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Who the fuck do you think pays for bailouts? Who the fuck do you think loses their job and livelihood if the company can't employ them anymore?
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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schuylaar said:
goddamn right i was..tell me how i wasn't?
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Employees are disposable. Every one of them thinks they are crucial to the success of the business and every one of them is wrong. There's ALWAYS someone that can fill your vacancy and a good chance they're better at the job than you were.

I was a trainer and sales manager for several large companies during a very short and lucrative career. People like you were a pleasure to fire, even if they were the top dog. Nothing like a public execution of the king o' the dipshits to get everybody else in line.
 
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schuylaar

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MuyLocoNC said:
Employees are disposable. Every one of them thinks they are crucial to the success of the business and every one of them is wrong. There's ALWAYS someone that can fill your vacancy and a good chance they're better at the job than you were.

I was a trainer and sales manager for several large companies during a very short and lucrative career. People like you were a pleasure to fire, even if they were the top dog. Nothing like a public execution of the king o' the dipshits to get everybody else in line.
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of course they are..even when they wash out of their "training school" at $50k/head.

the best laid plans of mice and managers..

:mrgreen:
 
jahbrudda

jahbrudda

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heckler73 said:
It is correct to presume one person will not shift the stats to a great extent (in this case Δμ ~$650), when considering averages and medians over a sample of 120k data points.
But that is one person out of how many other 7-figure "employees"?
Every time you add one, the average shifts further to the right, while the median sits put (essentially).
So, do you have a breakdown of the top 20 salaries in Oracle?
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I don't have any breakdowns, do you?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Why are all the righties who bitch and moan about the "liberal plantation" suddenly so scared to answer a simple question?

:LOL:
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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abandonconflict said:
Capitalism has a tendency toward boom and bust, with regular crisis. Capitalism needs bailing out regularly. So you're wrong again, it's capitalism's fault too.
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A bailout is not capitalism. Capitalism allows businesses to succeed and fail based upon merit, not government cronyism...

The government has bought stability by creating an economic bubble and putting us trillions of dollars in debt. It is my contention that the cure is inevitably going to be much more unhealthy to the patient than the illness.

I want to control my labor and my income (which is limited currently in America) and you want my labor and income controlled by government and doled out as they see fit for the benefit of society. I feel that your solution leads to less freedom, less opportunity and less economic growth.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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NLXSK1 said:
A bailout is not capitalism. Capitalism allows businesses to succeed and fail based upon merit, not government cronyism...

The government has bought stability by creating an economic bubble and putting us trillions of dollars in debt. It is my contention that the cure is inevitably going to be much more unhealthy to the patient than the illness.

I want to control my labor and my income (which is limited currently in America) and you want my labor and income controlled by government and doled out as they see fit for the benefit of society. I feel that your solution leads to less freedom, less opportunity and less economic growth.
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I actually agree.

Capitalism can't be fixed.
 
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