Make no mistake: Medicare for All would cut taxes for most Americans

schuylaar said:
when premiums, co-pay and out-of-pocket disappear, will you still be laughing?

according to the Federal Government Budgeting Guidelines, health is supposed to be 5% of your income..is it? would you like it to be?

you're worried about your taxes increasing for YOU, yet when increased they go to the 1% in tax cuts- this has already happened..did you PAY FOR THE FIRST TIME LAST APRIL 15th? many of my friends have to the tune of $1-2K, and that went right into the pockets of the wealthy..why aren't you upset about this?
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Because it’s just not true.
 
UncleBuck said:
It took $50 and 3 minutes to have my own business

like always you are full of horse shit
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What if you just opened your business anyway, and didn't pay anybody ? What would happen ?

Are there any kinds of business that you could do, as in you know how to do a competent job*, but because you haven't paid money to people for licenses or "permission" ... or are you too afraid to offer those services to willing customers at a lower price than government protected people who kiss the ring to avoid a beating?



*hypothetical question, well known you have no real skills
 
UncleBuck said:
It took $50 and 3 minutes to have my own business

like always you are full of horse shit
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Running a business under your own name as a sole proprietorship here in Nova Scotia required no registration at all.

I wonder where Rob got his advanced degree in economics, let's see where does anarchy and barter fit into modern economic theory. Rob needs to post his masters thesis for critical review at least! I guess in Rob's world view those who only want to work for a living (90% of people) should not exist and wouldn't for long if Rob ran things! Starvation is an effective means of population control in the minds of some, as long as they and their families are not among the hungry and dying. Marxist Leninist's had shitty ideas about how economic things should work and how people should behave too, it caused tens of millions of people to starve to death.
 
blu3bird said:
Not sure if you're trolling, trying to be funny or if you're serious, either way no offense taken


Also for future reference, you shouldn't use language like calling someone "high yellow", it's racist. Just looking out for you.
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Certainly it's not nice to make derogatory remarks to people based on racial makeup. Kind of funny though how language is imprecise sometimes.

Many people refer to Obama as the "first black President etc. " Yet, that's not accurate, he's mixed race and calling him "black" could be seen as a hypodescent type remark and as an insult to him. It was known colloquially as the "one drop rule" by racists who lumped mixed race people into what they considered an inferior class of people.

Here is an internet definition of hypodescent...

In societies that regard some races or ethnic groups of people as dominant or superior and others as subordinate or inferior, hypodescent refers to the automatic assignment by the dominant culture of children of a mixed union or sexual relations between members of different socioeconomic groups or ethnic groups to the subordinate group.
 
BurtMaklin said:
Lol, a bunch of fake liberals arguing against socialized healthcare because corporate propaganda says they will lose their socioeconomic privilege.

Poor whitey!!!!

Bunch of racists.
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Burt I agree that racism is the reason Americans do not have a healthcare system like the rest of the English speaking world. There are a lot of economic rationalizations used to justify the statues quo, all are false, but they have none the less sucked in many Americans who are not motivated by race. They have been sucked in by racially motivated ideology that makes a society of individuals preferable to one of communities, not sharing and forming a bond with those they do not like are behind much of it, whether they realize it or not and whether they are motivated by it or not. The insurance companies are making vast fortunes off the government and population under the current scheme of things and are fighting hard to keep it that way with billions of dollars deployed to do it. Most of those here who are anti Trump, but not in favor of a public heath care system are not racists, they are ideologues, who's thinking is distorted by bad information and an ideology that eschews community efforts because of racist roots that are not apparent to most people.

Please don't paint with such a broad brush, many just disagree on the economics and are not motivated by race, but by the environment they grew up in and the ideological beliefs that permeate their country. Race is at the root of most of it though, but not all of it, a history of anti communist ideology and powerful economic interests are factors too. Some people are a a bit racist, many people are, it's built into our genes (just a fear of the other, or a stranger*) these people are conscious of their biases and have either overcome their up bringing, or are at least trying too do so. The people who are still all in for Trump are a different animal all together though. Racism and bigotry exist on a spectrum, from the unconscious biases of the liberal, to the full blow GOP Trumper Nazi who want's a "final solutuion".

* I'm currently reading, The moral Animal by Robert Wright
 
Rob Roy said:
Certainly it's not nice to make derogatory remarks to people based on racial makeup. Kind of funny though how language is imprecise sometimes.

Many people refer to Obama as the "first black President etc. " Yet, that's not accurate, he's mixed race and calling him "black" could be seen as a hypodescent type remark and as an insult to him. It was known colloquially as the "one drop rule" by racists who lumped mixed race people into what they considered an inferior class of people.

Here is an internet definition of hypodescent...

In societies that regard some races or ethnic groups of people as dominant or superior and others as subordinate or inferior, hypodescent refers to the automatic assignment by the dominant culture of children of a mixed union or sexual relations between members of different socioeconomic groups or ethnic groups to the subordinate group.
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Except Obama identifies as black so when you call him by racial slurs (and then blame me for it even though I wasn’t even a member yet) it proves what a racist pos you are
 
Fogdog said:
I don't care what Trump gets for his coverage. I care what kind of coverage my mom who is on Medicare receives. I care what kind of coverage my family receives.
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Well, you should care, and that's part of your problem. Your mother deserves the same healthcare services as that lunatic, and so does every single American.

You obviously believe that a person's wealth, education and privilege determines a person's value. You constantly look down on people because of these criteria, and that makes you a hypocrite and a phoney. That's a fact I fully grasp.
 
BurtMaklin said:
Well, you should care, and that's part of your problem. Your mother deserves the same healthcare services as that lunatic, and so does every single American.

You obviously believe that a person's wealth, education and privilege determines a person's value. You constantly look down on people because of these criteria, and that makes you a hypocrite and a phoney. That's a fact I fully grasp.
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Conald only deserves a bullet between his temples as healthcare
 
UncleBuck said:
Except Obama identifies as black so when you call him by racial slurs (and then blame me for it even though I wasn’t even a member yet) it proves what a racist pos you are
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Well see that's sort of hypocritical though. The term "mulatto" has origins in a descriptive of race way and not in a derogatory way.

Applying the term "black" to a person who isn't black, but of mixed race, is common today. Yet that application has origins in being a derogatory term, used by people who were applying the "one drop rule" . Funny huh?

I personally think a person's actions are better way to judge them, than their race though and hope you agree, honky.
 
UncleBuck said:
To start a business you simply register with the secretary of state

as always, you only prove your incompetence by speaking
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Doesn't the mafia also take money for permission and get a cut of all the business action in their territory too? How can you tell the difference ?
 
Rob Roy said:
Well see that's sort of hypocritical though. The term "mulatto" has origins in a descriptive of race way and not in a derogatory way.

Applying the term "black" to a person who isn't black, but of mixed race, is common today. Yet that application has origins in being a derogatory term, used by people who were applying the "one drop rule" . Funny huh?

I personally think a person's actions are better way to judge them, than their race though and hope you agree, honky.
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You used a racial slur to describe our first black president then blamed me for it even though I wasn’t even a member of the site yet.

you’re a racist
 
Maldad said:
Have noticed this over and over.....true liberal dems say they are for everyone.....unless you don’t agree with them.....then you become a racist.
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If your obvious troll of what you mean by "true liberal dems" is saying that they are for 'everyone' and you are not agreeing with them that means you think things are not for everyone?

I can give you many examples of racists pushing this narrative. Does that mean you are racist for believing that what the racists have wrapped up in a nice looking little package of bullshit to make it look like it is not racist to believe it, no of course not.

But generally if you didn't know, most of what you read online is bullshit trolling and noise to make it look like this big war between whatever ideologies you think matter and the other side. The 'everyone says' stuff cannot be relied on as long as every forum is being spammed by Anti-democracy trolls that Trump has allowed to continually attack us with their cat fishing and every other means of cyber warfare Putin has ordered his military to use to help get Trump re-elected.
 
Rob Roy said:
Doesn't the mafia also take money for permission and get a cut of all the business action in their territory too? How can you tell the difference ?
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Changing the goalposts because you were proven wrong is just pathetic, and a signature move for you, you convicted pedophile
 
UncleBuck said:
You used a racial slur to describe our first black president then blamed me for it even though I wasn’t even a member of the site yet.

you’re a racist
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Except calling a person of mixed race "black" could be an application of the "one drop rule" which undeniably has racist origins.

In other words, you're wrong and are now beating yourself with the stick you thought you would beat me with.

Still winning. Too easy. Yawn.
 
UncleBuck said:
Changing the goalposts because you were proven wrong is just pathetic, and a signature move for you, you convicted pedophile
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Changing your cat litter and your pants would go a long way towards you not being a Poopy Pants, Poopy Pants.
 
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Rob Roy said:
Except calling a person of mixed race "black" could be an application of the "one drop rule" which undeniably has racist origins.

In other words, you're wrong and are now beating yourself with the stick you thought you would beat me with.

Still winning. Too easy. Yawn.
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Obama identities as black. Calling him black is a sign of respect

calling him by a racial slur, then blaming someone who isn’t even there for it, is cowardly and racist

you stupid racist
 
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