Biden Screws Up

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
Amazing huh?
Yea, I'm going bitch about Biden specifically & the WH & Congress in general.
The Buck stops here?
You fucked up Joe.
All of them fucked up, big time.
What the fuck were/are they thinking?
Apparently fucking nothing if your a renter or homeowner out of work due to Covid or Delta.
Renters in South Look Most Vulnerable After Eviction Ban Expires (msn.com)
This is fucking monumental (do I curse too much? Tough shit)
,I curse when I'm mad and I've been mad a lot lately and this shit about throwing people out of their homes during a fucking Pandemic makes me fucking livid.
They have $46.6 BILLION sitting around earmarked for rental subsides & they do nothing basically, while only $3 billion has been used.
Jesus fucking Christ, they're blatant ineptitude is on full display with the Republicans saying no extension & the Congress essentially saying we have better things to do, like take a vacation and go fishing.
That's what they are doing right now while people are tossed into the streets, into they're cars or into homeless shelters.
Not thousands, or even tens of thousands, nope, fucking MILLIONS more homeless are going into an already fucked up system.
You thought homelessness was a problem before?
Just wait, you haven't seen shit yet.
But if you want to take look at what this NATION is facing, take a gander at life in LA.
A sign of the future?
Fucking guaranteed.

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Nice huh?
Get used to it.
 
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hanimmal

Well-Known Member
They have $46.6 BILLION sitting around earmarked for rental subsides & they do nothing basically, while only $3 billion has been used.
Who is 'they'?

That is what I would like to see. I heard something like $20 billion was owed in back rent. And something along the lines of the people who own the rental properties have to apply for the loans? idk, this is a bit fuzzy for me to know whose pulling what.

I wonder if there is some kind of heat map that shows where people are behind in rent/evictions and then I would be more confident thinking I know what should have been done. This absolutely sucks, but if the money is there, who is the hold up?

My guess is that there is a mix of different levels of people who want to make a profit off of the fact that people have not been paying rent for the last year due to the global pandemic that is still currently ripping through our nation/world.
 

xtsho

Well-Known Member
Some of that money is being spent. Someone paying for the cheap tents they're handing out.



 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
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To help answer these critical questions, we assessed rental risk by analyzing unemployment claims, housing costs, and underlying social vulnerability at the national, state, and local levels, using the UrbanFootprint Recovery Insights Platform.

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Unemployment has disproportionately impacted rent-burdened households in the US, which are two times more likely than the average renter to experience job loss. Honing in on the 3.4 to 6.7 million rent-burdened households that have experienced job loss as a result of the COVID-19 crisis, we see risk spread across the country. In general, the states and counties with the biggest rent gap tend to have large populations, high housing costs and high income inequality.

In partnership with Center for Planning Excellence (CPEX), we are actively supporting state agencies and housing stakeholders in Louisiana in unpacking the rental crisis there and designing the most effective interventions. Driven by very high unemployment in the service and hospitality sectors, in Louisiana, a minimum of 69,000 to 130,000 renter households are at risk when local and federal protections and aid expire. These are heavily rent-burdened households that have experienced job loss as a result of the COVID-19 crisis. The six-month rental assistance needed for these renters ranges from $230.0 and $432.2 million.

Which of these households are most vulnerable?

To identify the subset of these households most at risk of eviction, we mapped Louisiana’s most heavily rent-burdened households with COVID-related job loss against our Social Vulnerability Index, a composite index that takes into account poverty, crowded housing, single parent households, and other metrics that indicate a household in this community is unlikely to withstand an economic shock. By this measure, more than 35,000 households are most at risk across the state.

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Lawmakers in Washington and in state houses across the nation are considering a range of policy actions to address this issue. These interventions include the $100 billion Emergency Rental Assistance and Rental Market Stabilization Act of 2020, and numerous pieces of legislation at the state level.

We are tracking and evaluating this issue closely and deploying our analysis and software platforms to help agencies understand the scope and distribution of this issue and how specific interventions will impact communities on the ground.

Footnotes
  • Renter household, rent burdened households, and median gross rental price data from US Census 2014–2018 American Community Survey 5-year estimates.
  • Estimated unemployment rate is calculated from pre-COVID-19 unemployment rates and derived from state level initial jobless claims from the US Department of Labor. For Louisiana, county-level initial jobless claims data from the Louisiana Workforce Commission (LWC), and initial claims by sector from LWC from week ending March 7, 2020 until today. Total estimated unemployment from initial claims is normalized by the total labor force reported in the BLS State Employment and Unemployment report from February 2020. Estimates subject to revision as claims and labor force are refined.
  • Unemployment risk difference between renters and owners from Urban Institute: We Must Act Quickly to Protect Millions of Vulnerable Renters.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
I curse when I'm mad and I've been mad a lot lately and this shit about throwing people out of their homes during a fucking Pandemic makes me fucking livid.
They have $46.6 BILLION sitting around earmarked for rental subsides & they do nothing basically, while only $3 billion has been used.
Yeah it looks like that covid-relief money is enough to cover all the back rent owed.
https://apnews.com/article/health-coronavirus-pandemic-michael-brown-5ea6a36efe4e5e7d169fcefbd1dd298a
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BOSTON (AP) — Evictions, which have mostly been on pause during the pandemic, were expected to ramp up Monday after the Biden administration allowed the federal moratorium to expire over the weekend and Congress was unable to do anything to extend it.

Housing advocates fear the end of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention moratorium could result in millions of people being evicted. But most expect the wave of evictions to build slowly over the coming weeks and months as the bureaucracy of removing people from their homes restarts.

On Sunday night, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the House Democratic leaders called on the Biden administration to immediately extend the moratorium, calling it a “moral imperative” to prevent Americans from being put out of their homes during a COVID-19 surge.

The Biden administration announced Thursday it would allow the ban to expire, arguing its hands were tied after the U.S. Supreme Court signaled the measure had to end.

“Struggling renters are now facing a health crisis and an eviction crisis,” said Alicia Mazzara, a senior research analyst at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

MORE ON THE EVICTION MORATORIUM
“Without the CDC’s moratorium, millions of people are at risk of being evicted or becoming homeless, increasing their exposure to COVID just as cases are rising across the country. The effects will fall heavily on people of color, particularly Black and Latino communities, who face greater risk of eviction and more barriers to vaccination.”

More than 15 million people live in households that owe as much as $20 billion to their landlords, according to the Aspen Institute. As of July 5, roughly 3.6 million people in the U.S. said they faced eviction in the next two months, according to the U.S. Census Bureau’s Household Pulse Survey.

Parts of the South and other regions with weaker tenant protections will likely see the largest spikes and communities of color where vaccination rates are sometimes lower will be hit hardest. But advocates say this crisis is likely to have a wider impact than pre-pandemic evictions.

The Biden administration had hoped that historic amounts of rental assistance allocated by Congress in December and March would help avert an eviction crisis. But the distribution has been painfully slow. Only about $3 billion of the first tranche of $25 billion had been distributed through June by states and localities. Another $21.5 billion will go to the states.

Ashley Phonsyry, 22, who will be in court Thursday for an eviction hearing after falling several thousands dollars behind on her Fayetteville, Arkansas, two-bedroom apartment, said her landlord refused to take rental assistance. She left her job after being hurt in a domestic violence incident and suffering from depression and anxiety. The eviction hearing is a day after her domestic violence case goes to court.

“It frustrates me and scares me,” she said of being evicted. “I’m trying so hard to make it right and it doesn’t seem like it’s enough.”

Around the country, courts, legal advocates and law enforcement agencies are gearing up for evictions to return to pre-pandemic levels, a time when 3.7 million people were displaced from their homes every year, or seven every minute, according to the Eviction Lab at Princeton University.

In St. Louis, where the sheriff’s office handles court-ordered evictions, Sheriff Vernon Betts said 126 evictions had been ordered pending the end of the moratorium. His office plans to enforce about 30 evictions per day starting Aug. 9.

Betts knows there will be hundreds of additional orders soon. He’s already been contacted by countless landlords who haven’t yet filed for eviction, but plan to. And he expected to increase his staffing.

“What we’re planning on doing is tripling our two-man team,” he said. “Right off the bat we want to clean up that 126 evictions.”

Sgt. William Brown, who leads the evictions unit for the Milwaukee County Sheriff’s Office, expects many evictions to follow the end of the moratorium. He rattled off statistics that showed the steep decline in evictions since the pandemic began: nearly 4,000 in 2018 and 2019, then a plunge to about 1,900 in 2020.

“I think that once evictions are there fully, there’s no more moratorium in place, it’s going to get really bad,” he said.

“It’s the most challenging position that I’ve ever been in, because at the end of the day I have an empathy and sympathy. I’m required by state statute to execute this,” he said. “You have to feel for these people ... watching small kids go through this, this entire process.”

Lee Camp, an attorney with the St. Louis legal group ArchCity Defenders, said the vast majority of tenants facing eviction don’t have lawyers, often because they can’t afford them. Meanwhile, he said, eviction cases move through the courts quickly in Missouri, often in a matter of weeks.

“The scales of justice are just at this incredible imbalance,” Camp said.

In Wisconsin, Heiner Giese, legal counsel for the Apartment Association of Southeastern Wisconsin, said his trade association for rental property owners in the Milwaukee area has been “very strong in urging our members and all landlords not to evict.”

“I pretty strongly believe from the feedback we get from our members in the Milwaukee area … there will not be this giant tsunami of (evictions),” Giese said.

Still, Colleen Foley, executive director of the Legal Aid Society of Milwaukee, said she “certainly” expects an uptick. She said 161 evictions were filed last week, a significant increase from prior weeks where filings tended to hover around 100 to 120.
Jesus fucking Christ, they're blatant ineptitude is on full display with the Republicans saying no extension & the Congress essentially saying we have better things to do, like take a vacation and go fishing.
That's what they are doing right now while people are tossed into the streets, into they're cars or into homeless shelters.
Not thousands, or even tens of thousands, nope, fucking MILLIONS more homeless are going into an already fucked up system.
You thought homelessness was a problem before?
Just wait, you haven't seen shit yet.
But if you want to take look at what this NATION is facing, take a gander at life in LA.
A sign of the future?
Fucking guaranteed.
I am not sure this wasn't already taken care of back in the first major bill the Democrats got through. It is just owners of these buildings that seem to be dragging their heels to get the money that is available to them to pay this back rent.

We need to figure out much better ways to house all the people in our nation while not polluting our planet.

Some of that money is being spent. Someone paying for the cheap tents they're handing out.



I would love to see a census taken on where all of these people lived growing up.
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
Amazing huh?
Yea, I'm going bitch about Biden specifically & the WH & Congress in general.
The Buck stops here?
You fucked up Joe.
All of them fucked up, big time.
What the fuck were/are they thinking?
Apparently fucking nothing if your a renter or homeowner out of work due to Covid or Delta.
Renters in South Look Most Vulnerable After Eviction Ban Expires (msn.com)
This is fucking monumental (do I curse too much? Tough shit)
,I curse when I'm mad and I've been mad a lot lately and this shit about throwing people out of their homes during a fucking Pandemic makes me fucking livid.
They have $46.6 BILLION sitting around earmarked for rental subsides & they do nothing basically, while only $3 billion has been used.
Jesus fucking Christ, they're blatant ineptitude is on full display with the Republicans saying no extension & the Congress essentially saying we have better things to do, like take a vacation and go fishing.
That's what they are doing right now while people are tossed into the streets, into they're cars or into homeless shelters.
Not thousands, or even tens of thousands, nope, fucking MILLIONS more homeless are going into an already fucked up system.
You thought homelessness was a problem before?
Just wait, you haven't seen shit yet.
But if you want to take look at what this NATION is facing, take a gander at life in LA.
A sign of the future?
Fucking guaranteed.

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Nice huh?
Get used to it.
Notice the date of this pile of shit
They knew in July this was going to happen & now it's an emergency?
The people were being thrown out 2 fucking day's ago & now your going to act?
The Congress, every last one of them, should sleep in a fucking box until they resolve this calamity.
Maybe then they'd act.

AUGUST 1, 2021

PRESS RELEASE

Washington, D.C. – Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, Whip James E. Clyburn and Assistant Speaker Katherine Clark issued this statement calling upon the Biden Administration to extend the eviction moratorium through October 18, 2021:
“On Thursday, the President asked Congress to pass an extension of the eviction moratorium. Sadly, it is clear that the Senate is not able to do so, and any legislation in the House, therefore, will not be sufficient to extend the moratorium.
“Action is needed, and it must come from the Administration. That is why House leadership is calling on the Administration to immediately extend the moratorium. As the CDC doubles down on mask-wearing and vaccination efforts, science and reason demand that they must also extend the moratorium in light of the delta variant. Doing so is a moral imperative to keep people from being put out on the street which also contributes to the public health emergency.
“The virus is still a threat. The moratorium must be extended, and the funds Congress allocated to assist renters and landlords must be spent. An extension of the moratorium is based on public health and the delta variant. It will also give more time to allow the money that Congress allocated to finally flow.
“We call upon the Treasury Department to indicate how the funds that it has already transferred to states and communities can be more effectively distributed to renters and landlords.”

Fuck you
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Amazing huh?
Yea, I'm going bitch about Biden specifically & the WH & Congress in general.
The Buck stops here?
You fucked up Joe.
All of them fucked up, big time.
What the fuck were/are they thinking?
Apparently fucking nothing if your a renter or homeowner out of work due to Covid or Delta.
Renters in South Look Most Vulnerable After Eviction Ban Expires (msn.com)
This is fucking monumental (do I curse too much? Tough shit)
,I curse when I'm mad and I've been mad a lot lately and this shit about throwing people out of their homes during a fucking Pandemic makes me fucking livid.
They have $46.6 BILLION sitting around earmarked for rental subsides & they do nothing basically, while only $3 billion has been used.
Jesus fucking Christ, they're blatant ineptitude is on full display with the Republicans saying no extension & the Congress essentially saying we have better things to do, like take a vacation and go fishing.
That's what they are doing right now while people are tossed into the streets, into they're cars or into homeless shelters.
Not thousands, or even tens of thousands, nope, fucking MILLIONS more homeless are going into an already fucked up system.
You thought homelessness was a problem before?
Just wait, you haven't seen shit yet.
But if you want to take look at what this NATION is facing, take a gander at life in LA.
A sign of the future?
Fucking guaranteed.

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Nice huh?
Get used to it.
nope. because whatever pittance even those two 8-week periods when UI gave me no money- i paid my rent. i didn't give a shit how many times i ate Ramen. i wasn't going to be that ^^^^^^^^

How is this Uncle Joe's fault? i smell 'States Rights' similar to when they ended their Federal unemployment early. In other words, I believe states are blocking payments on purpose because the money is there.
 

xtsho

Well-Known Member
The Supreme Court ruled that Biden could not extend the ban and that only Congress could so it's not really on Biden. He asked them to extend it but they didn't. They never had the votes for it to pass anyway so they called it a day and have taken a 7 week recess to go home and sip on Chardonnay.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Who is 'they'?

That is what I would like to see. I heard something like $20 billion was owed in back rent. And something along the lines of the people who own the rental properties have to apply for the loans? idk, this is a bit fuzzy for me to know whose pulling what.

I wonder if there is some kind of heat map that shows where people are behind in rent/evictions and then I would be more confident thinking I know what should have been done. This absolutely sucks, but if the money is there, who is the hold up?

My guess is that there is a mix of different levels of people who want to make a profit off of the fact that people have not been paying rent for the last year due to the global pandemic that is still currently ripping through our nation/world.
anything from a .org requires an application and wait in line..so they filled out the state application and the state has not stepped up to the base to service them..why? States Rights. Fed can give them the money but they don't have to use it.

Republican are the biggest fvcks of all because CRUETY IS THE POINT!..LIVE YOUR SIN!:finger:
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Yeah it looks like that covid-relief money is enough to cover all the back rent owed.
https://apnews.com/article/health-coronavirus-pandemic-michael-brown-5ea6a36efe4e5e7d169fcefbd1dd298a
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I am not sure this wasn't already taken care of back in the first major bill the Democrats got through. It is just owners of these buildings that seem to be dragging their heels to get the money that is available to them to pay this back rent.

We need to figure out much better ways to house all the people in our nation while not polluting our planet.

I would love to see a census taken on where all of these people lived growing up.
renters never see the money it goes directly from .org to landlord.
 

injinji

Well-Known Member
My two cents. . . .

The application for rent help is almost 50 pages long. I tried to get on a free wifi program since I had lost 75% of my hours at work. The damn forms were such a pain in the ass I gave up. And I've dealt with government forms before. I did make it through the hurricane recovery timber block grant process, but each person was assigned a case worker and she would get back to you when you had a question. If they had put more money into hiring helpers, many more of the folks who need the help would have been able to finish them. But this was all new, and they had to build the framework while the program was starting.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
My two cents. . . .

The application for rent help is almost 50 pages long. I tried to get on a free wifi program since I had lost 75% of my hours at work. The damn forms were such a pain in the ass I gave up. And I've dealt with government forms before. I did make it through the hurricane recovery timber block grant process, but each person was assigned a case worker and she would get back to you when you had a question. If they had put more money into hiring helpers, many more of the folks who need the help would have been able to finish them. But this was all new, and they had to build the framework while the program was starting.
you have to do it. it's online + you can get a free Obama phone too..no WIFI? take your laptop to the million or so hotspots like McD and do it there.

most government forms are lengthy but if you want your service just bite the bullet..you lost 75% of your hours..what else you doing?
 

injinji

Well-Known Member
you have to do it. it's online + you can get a free Obama phone too..no WIFI? take your laptop to the million or so hotspots like McD and do it there.

most government forms are lengthy but if you want your service just bite the bullet..you lost 75% of your hours..what else you doing?
I have wifi at home and at work, but not at the riverhouse. I was trying for free wifi. It would have paid up to 50 bucks a month, so 600 a year. No big deal. The hurricane recovery timber block grant was for $75K, so I had to get through the paperwork on it. (my timber losses were about $150K, and I do have some replanting obligations.)

My work is event based. Weddings and other big events, plus weekly smaller events. We are a not for profit, so I don't make much. Working full time nights and weekends I made almost half what my wife makes in retirement. So when we closed down our income was reduced by less than 1/3. I've been going in one day a week just to make some hours. But after about six months of being closed down, I decided I wasn't going back like before. I told them I would work weeknight events, but they had to find someone to replace me for weekends. We are opened back up now and I'm training the new guys. (We hired a couple to cover weekends) Most of the time I'll be working one night a week.

The wife and I have a little over 100 acres and I share about that much with Sister. Even with the bulk of it in timber, I haven't been keeping up not working, so there will be no shortage of stuff to do. I just won't be getting paid for it.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Amazing huh?
Yea, I'm going bitch about Biden specifically & the WH & Congress in general.
The Buck stops here?
You fucked up Joe.
All of them fucked up, big time.
What the fuck were/are they thinking?
Apparently fucking nothing if your a renter or homeowner out of work due to Covid or Delta.
Renters in South Look Most Vulnerable After Eviction Ban Expires (msn.com)
This is fucking monumental (do I curse too much? Tough shit)
,I curse when I'm mad and I've been mad a lot lately and this shit about throwing people out of their homes during a fucking Pandemic makes me fucking livid.
They have $46.6 BILLION sitting around earmarked for rental subsides & they do nothing basically, while only $3 billion has been used.
Jesus fucking Christ, they're blatant ineptitude is on full display with the Republicans saying no extension & the Congress essentially saying we have better things to do, like take a vacation and go fishing.
That's what they are doing right now while people are tossed into the streets, into they're cars or into homeless shelters.
Not thousands, or even tens of thousands, nope, fucking MILLIONS more homeless are going into an already fucked up system.
You thought homelessness was a problem before?
Just wait, you haven't seen shit yet.
But if you want to take look at what this NATION is facing, take a gander at life in LA.
A sign of the future?
Fucking guaranteed.

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Nice huh?
Get used to it.
you should change the thread title- it;s not a fair assessment.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Republicans caused the mess, it's on them.

Sorry, I simply don't see how Biden fits into the cause side of the equation.

But really, folks. People experiencing homelessness don't vote. So they aren't going to get priority treatment by lawmakers. I am sympathetic and would support rent subsidies but that is not going to happen in a Senate with 50 Senators on each side. Republicans would never allow the legislation to move forward. And voters don't care. Given conservative attitudes toward the homeless, this isn't a winning issue for Democrats in 2022. It's not.

Biden and the Democratic Party congressmen will be judged by how well they handle the end days of the epidemic and the financial well being of voters in 2022. Not saying Democrats aren't working on solutions to homelessness, they are. Just saying that it's not a priority right now. Biden isn't going to spend political capital on this problem right now. He took presidential orders on the subject as far as the courts would allow and they rolled him back. Democrats didn't select those SCOTUS judges. Republicans did.

Elections matter. You have to win in order to enact the changes you want. We need many more than 50 Democratic Caucus Senators.

Vote Republicans out.
 
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